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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Owlcat's next Pathfinder RPG - now in ALPHA

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by purpleblob, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Mister Familiar Learned

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    She slips into some hot black-leather geddup if you pick one of the Naughty Mythic Paths.
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  2. ~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T Arcane Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    So I finished the alpha with my arcanist lich. Steam says 24 hours, which is a hell of a lot for an alpha so that's cool. General notes:

    -Gets progressively buggier as you go through. At one point my save broke completely on whenever going to the adventure map and I had to reload a ways back to get it working again. But meh it's an alpha, it should be expected to be very buggy.
    -Performance is also complete dogshit. I played most of Kingmaker on high settings and it ran fine. The alpha I played on low settings most of the time and got lots of stuttering and saving/loading took a long time. Again, alpha - I wouldn't expect the devs to do a major performance pass until much later.
    -Some of the mythic abilities are ludicrously powerful. 4 extra spells per day from 3 separate levels? Permanent rage? Haste + blur whenever entering combat? Sounds like it might be too much but after playing I'm pretty ok with it because:
    -Overall it's much more difficult than Kingmaker. I played on core rules (which is now a default difficulty setting) and found it solidly challenging. The fact that so many enemies are demons means lots of resistances + enemies do lots of status effects to you. Caster AI has also been boosted for some casters, hopefully it's still work in progress though because many casters you can still just select all > left click and kill very fast. Still, I'd say there aren't enough party vs party fights which are always the most fun in this type of game.
    -Regill is by far the best companion. Awesome lines, great delivery by the voice actor, and it doesn't hurt that he does excellent damage after buying the extremely good gnome hammer sold by the quartermaster and taking the dex to damage mythic feat. Overall writing is pretty mediocre however, though it's obvious there's a bunch of placeholder stuff, especially for some of the companions (the game completely forgets about Woljif at a certain point and you just permanently lose him).
    -Didn't have much opportunity to play around with the lich spells before the end of the alpha but Repurpose seems like a lot of fun. Do damage over time plus if the enemy dies while the spell is active it gets revived as an undead under your control. Went around with a personal undead fiend minotaur guardian for the last couple fights.

    Overall it was a lot of fun, I'm pretty hyped.
     
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  3. S0rcererV1ct0r Liturgist

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    ~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T, how is the quest to become a Lich? Can you be a lich sorcerer?
     
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  4. Cyberarmy Love fool Patron

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    You die after the first kiss, game over.
    But worth it.
     
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  5. Elex Arbiter

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    I know is alfa but the problems look identical to kingmaker at release.
    It feel like they work exactly like before and nothing is changed.
     
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  6. CaesarCzech Learned

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    Even i can tell that is bullshit.

    Draining Kiss: The Fiend kisses a creature Charmed by it or a willing creature. The target must make a DC 15 Constitution saving throw against this magic, taking 32 (5d10 + 5) psychic damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. The target's hit point maximum is reduced by an amount equal to the damage taken. This reduction lasts until the target finishes a Long Rest. The target dies if this effect reduces its hit point maximum to 0.

    Even if we assume its on permanently there is no way that Character that is supposed to go to mythic cant tank that even if simple kiss would feel like Sadomaso sex session. So from story and mechanics perspective it would be total bullshit.
     
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  7. The Great Deceiver Trickster Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    How's the rotating camera? I'm bit worried about that one, as I prefer not to constantly use it to get a good view as is often the case in isometric games with one.
     
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  8. InD_ImaginE Magister Patron

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    Some area are clearly designed for you to use it. The alpha was set in a city with tall buildings and all. On default perspective (or even if you just move the camera once), your view will be blocked by those buildings. You absolutely need to rotate.
     
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  9. purpleblob Savant

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    Woljif is stretch goal companion - so not surprising some of his content is missing.

    I do agree Regil is fantastic. Lann is awesome too.
     
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  10. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Buildings are semi-transparent.
     
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  11. HeatEXTEND Cipher Patron

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    uh-oh....
     
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  12. toroks Educated

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    7 STR, so this oracle can't even make use of his medium armor and shield proficiencies...?
     
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  13. S0rcererV1ct0r Liturgist

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    I agree that a high level char can survive but it is from D&D 5e. On Pathfinder, Succubus are far nastier ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/demon/succubus/ ) but the companion is probably high level too. She is not the average succubus. Resist the manipulation of Nocticula is far harder than any succubus. On Kingmaker, you can romance even a Fey...
     
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  14. guestposting Novice

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    If WOTR’s problems in alpha seem like Kingmaker’s problems on release... doesn’t that mean Owlcat’s improved dramatically? They’ll spend the year before the game comes out polishing it instead of the year after.

    In my experience, the bugs aren’t that bad—expected a lot worse. There’s some missing content and some obvious placeholder text. Also the strategic army management layer is still pretty rough, but they say they’ve only just started working that out.
     
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  15. CaesarCzech Learned

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    My question had to do if it is always on since im sorry but kiss always causing energy drain would make succubus far less usefull for infiltration. Well did some googling and apparently Arushale cannot control it due to basically being on knife edge between good and evil due to her nature being in flux.
     
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  16. guestposting Novice

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    This feels wrong to me. Usually when the writing in WOTR is bad, it feels like it was lifted straight from the modules. Really nothing in common with the tumblr overdose stuff in Deadfire. The stretch goal companion is the only one who’s truly cringe and I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get an editing pass (this character is so unfinished that he just disappears halfway through chapter 2, so he’s clearly a work in progress).

    Have you played Kingmaker yet? Or Deadfire for that matter?
     
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  17. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    Siege of Dragonspear of Pathfinder then, huh?

    No, on the latter, but I'm on chapter 2 of Kingmaker at the moment.
     
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  18. guestposting Novice

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    You don’t need to worry about Amber Scott’s... unique voice. Let me put it this way: there’s plenty of dialogue that’s higher quality than Kingmaker, but when it’s bad you can get big blocks of plodding backstory. I’m betting the worst stuff is placeholder text given that there are still a few totally blank dialogue nodes in chapter 2.
     
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  19. Mister Familiar Learned

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    Cringe how? Edgelord Cringe? Loner Antihero Cringe?
     
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  20. Xamenos Learned Patron

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    from tabletop WotR (open)
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  21. golgepapaz Augur

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    At the Core difficulty, enemy stats are the same as in bestiary. only enemy count is higher which is adjustable as well
     
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  22. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Five or six unique mini bosses before you even get to level up (from three to four)? Much awesomeness.
     
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  23. golgepapaz Augur

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    Flurry and rapid does not stack ,I think.
     
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  24. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    He starts with Rapid, so it had better. 90% sure it is.
     
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  25. guestposting Novice

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    He’s a bunch of seedy rogue stereotypes turned up to 11. Needs to be toned down.

    The edgelord Aasimar Oracle is actually handled pretty well. Like a diet Marquis de Sade.
     
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