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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Owlcat's next Pathfinder RPG - now in ALPHA

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by purpleblob, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Inb4 the only difference is a change of model and the mount having an extra attack. Which is bad because it means mounted combat is optimal. If I were them, I'd restrict the use of mounts to big maps where you are leading crusade soldiers maybe.
     
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  2. S0rcererV1ct0r Liturgist

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    No, restrict fun stuff without a plausible justification for the sake of sawyerism in a SP game is never a good thing.
     
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  3. Lacrymas Arcane

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    The justification is it being optimal to always be mounted.
     
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  4. S0rcererV1ct0r Liturgist

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    And what is the problem? Is optional to use weapons(except for monks), so lets take out the option to use weapons? Let the players have fun. How many RPG's allow mounted combat? I can only think about mount & blade.
     
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  5. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Currently all it does is trade tactical flexibility for speed. It’s far from always optimal. Taking pet over Divine Weapon Bond is probably optimal, but if you ever played Pal in P:K you know DWB is really good too (it’s min/lvl for each use) and too many pets gets cluttered. Oracle/Shaman can get pet from Nature Mystery/Spirit.

    There are a few minor Mounted feats they can add but hard to see it being game-breaking.
     
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  6. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Kalarion,

    The Natural Order neither sucks nor owns. It merely is. Ignorance of it is costly, mastery profitable. Supernatural is to be understood as akin to supersaturated, not to abolish but to fulfill. A superhero is not thereby a villain for being super.

    Cope spelled with an "h" is hope, if only a fool's hope, which of course it is in all senses. Only a Denethor would deny there being any hope in WotR, and that because his iPalantir is giving him a purposefully incomplete picture of the possibilities, if not probabilities.

    The writing in WotR is growing on me. Ask Sosiel about his art.
     
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  7. LannTheStupid Товарищ Patron

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    The Natural Order dictates that North American plains are to be inhabited by proud warrior tribes and not littered with towns and roads.

    I hope Putin will set the world to rights and make it happen one day.
     
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  8. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    The (too) proud warrior tribes are the ones building the towns and roads, dipshit. Here and there.

     
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  9. Efe Arbiter

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    the guy pronounces it like CRY ME AH.
    is this for real? do you guys pronounce it the same?
     
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  10. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    How else would one pronounce it?

     
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  11. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    :yeah:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/posts/2831570

     
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  12. InD_ImaginE Magister Patron

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    Well that's fast
     
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  13. InternalRevenue Novice

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    The campaign was "only" $45,000 away from the goal when it ended, and with the momentum it had at the time a one-day extension would have covered it. For those who might complain about class redundancy, getting those excellent ranger-only spells much earlier and with more casts per day is really nice, and the animal focus feature adds some extra versatility on top of that. Picking out 6 meaningful archetypes that'll translate well to a CRPG will be tough though, we might see some more Owlcat inventions.

    I'm wondering how well dinosaurs will be integrated into the game aside from being animal companions; will we see them as enemies? Will druids be able to wildshape into them? Will they be summon monster/nature's ally options?
     
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  14. InD_ImaginE Magister Patron

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    Additional Stretch Goal: Druid Companion and Mythic Path plz Owlcat

    I am honestly expecting funding to petter out after the KS campaign. After all the people who want to fund are already funding. Besides maybe Russian which I think their CC is not accepted by KS or something?

    Well glad that we got it that fast anyway.
     
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  15. CaesarCzech Learned

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    Everyone talking about how Evil Swarm is but what most interested me is that you basically got direct line to Iomedae, and that you can apparently accept Power from Demons. so does that mean you are basically God's employe ? and that you can basically turn crusade from Reformation into Counter Reformation in religious terms ? Basically turn Crusade into Anti Crusade ?. Im now interested and wondering if its possible to side with Demons and how epilogue look like if that happened.
     
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  16. Lacrymas Arcane

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    At most you'll be able to side with the demons at the end. It will be a completely different game if you side with them somewhere in the middle, aka more work. I wouldn't expect any narrative deviancy based on choice really.

    Also, what's the difference between Ranger and Hunter? It seems redundant to me.
     
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  17. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Big advantage of Hunter is sharing Feats with pet. A lot of overlap with Sacred Huntmaster.
     
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  18. Lord of Riva Learned Patron

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    Well, i hope you guys enjoy the Alpha ... :argh:

    Can you guys tell me which mounts are available for the cavalier? (and if only the Cavalier has access to miunted combat)

    Also are there new Animal companions? (apart from the Dino of course)

    Please throw me some breadcrumbs here.
     
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  19. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    So far only mount is Smilodon, and Paladins also get access to mounts. Would guess Hunter will too.

    Actual Mounted Combat (Feats and the like) isn't in game yet, but Cavs get bonuses tied to Mounted Combat which probably(?) are. I'll know within a week or so.

    Corrections welcome if I'm off on any of that.
     
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  20. Mister Familiar Learned

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    You can ride the centipede as any race.
     
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  21. Lord of Riva Learned Patron

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    What, really? YUS!
     
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  22. guestposting Novice

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    Haven’t done a demon run in the alpha yet, but my guess would be more that you turn the crusade into a war of regime change to get yourself installed as the new ruler of the abyss. Then maybe you can turn on the crusade in the last chapter.
     
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  23. Infinitron I post news Patron

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  24. InD_ImaginE Magister Patron

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    They probably can make 2 or 3 variations of short last chapter based on what you have chosen (good, neutral, evil) which branches out a bit depending of the actual path, but yeah.
     
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  25. InternalRevenue Novice

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    Having another look at the Paizo Hunter Archetypes it seems I was wrong about about the dearth of crpg-friendly options; Owlcat could implement the Divine Hunter, Feral Hunter, Feykiller, Forester, Totem-bonded, and Verminous Hunter, all with few to no alterations. None of those are unduly boring either.
     
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