Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Owlcat's next Pathfinder RPG - now in ALPHA

No idea, and no sign of it in the Alpha yet either. It's likely undergoing an involved approvement process from whoever's in charge of assurance at Paizo.

 

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The half-orcess portraits. Do they mean there will be another scarring / unscarring quest like with Valerie in Pathfinder: Kingmaker?

 

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Probably just a battle scar? It is war after all

 

Do we know what Druid archetypes are going to be in the game?

 

For what it's worth I agree in principle with your position (that whining about the natural order is retarded and you should rather strive to learn and master it, for the purpose of fulfilment and, when necessary, manipulation). The smiley was just regarding the tone of the post.

If you'd like a response the best way is probably to tag me, I almost missed this because I skipped about 8 pages of the thread (didn't care about discussions on relationships).

Any interesting information regarding Sorcs/Empyreals yet?

 

Not that I’ve seen. Focusing on new classes so far. Oracle is kind of Divine Sorc, which can add some spells via Mysteries.

Arcanist is probably the way to go for traditional Sorcs, though it’s still missing some good exploits and the Furry archetype is missing the extra STR/DEX on Enlarge/Reduce.

 

Knowing how much Owlcat hates Druids, probably there won't be any archetype.

And if you start a new game as a Druid, all your Kingmaker save files get corrupted.

 

Take Creeping Doom and make it part of Swarm-That-Walks' spellbook. Toss druid out with the dinner leftovers after.

 

P:K Druid OP

 

I'd like to hear too, but looking at the SRD Nature Fang, Feral Shifter, Urban Druid, and maybe Goliath Druid (They said in one of the Q&As they'd be implementing the Giant Form spells) and Sunrider make the most sense with what features they already have. Green scourge would be nice too since it'd mean they're implementing weapon spells, but they might not want to spend time on making that spell weapon enhancement system.

 

They need to put the fey-themed archetypes on the bench for this game. That’ll open up some room.

 

Yeah, but which class isn't OP in Kingmaker?

I wasn't arguing about usefulness, but it's a fact that we are at the second game and we still have 0 druid companions.

 

I mean buggirl is kinda Druidy, right? Does she even have a class?

 

Are they going to do the same thing with the half-orc that they did with Valerie?

 

Probably not. Her subplot seems to be about coming to terms with the reality of a war against demons and growing as a leader rather than reconciling with her goddess.
Likely won't last long before she gets sidelined as a Crusade Supervisor, though.

 

It was mentioned it's about her being on the receiving end of your MC releasing their inner demonic rage.

 

When I think of druid companions, I think of Elanee. One of the worst companions to ever exist. Sure, Faldorn is cool, but she's barely a character, like all the others in BG1. Jaheira... yeah, she isn't a pure druid and we know all about her. I think she's lazily written in BG2. There's Cernd, but I just forget he exists most of the time. Aaaand that's it? I honestly can't think of any others.

EDIT: Oh, right, PoE1's ...what's-his-face. He was slightly fun. His quest didn't make much sense.

 

Druids always felt lacking in distinct identity to me. From Baldur's Gate to Icewind Dale to Neverwinter to Pathfinder, they've never felt like anything more than EcoPriests. Slightly flavored derivatives of existing divine casters, rather than fully realized nature-based casters. And Shamans and the like don't help.

 

There has always been a pronounced separation between the druids' signature abilities. They being able to cast spells has nothing to do with their shapeshifting for example. Shapeshifting also doesn't take into account most of your equipment, I know why they do it, to prevent them from having ridiculous stats, but the forms end up underpowered because of it (combined with myopic specialization of the forms themselves). They also have no way to specialize as a build most of the time, so they come off as the worst parts of a jack of all trades. They have issues multiclassing, somehow nothing complements their talents or doesn't work like you'd expect it to with the forms. NWN1's Shifter was a better Druid than the Druid themselves. Fun too, but underpowered.

 

Yeah, there's some sort of conspiracy around Druid companions in RPGs. Elanee is one of the few things I still remember from NWN2 and not in a positive way. I like Faldorn a lot, but mainly because she seems completely nuts and I still can't believe she reaches level 5 spells.

This lack of Druids is one of the main reasons why my first character in Kingmaker, PoE 1 and Deadfire was a Druid.

 

Feyspeaker Val was probably strongest companion. Druids in P:K have (at least) one spell every level that’s just really effective, plus pet OP. After playing all the other Vals Longstrider at lvl 2 was such a relief (she can keep her Full Plate on).

 

Creeping Doom Creeping Doom Creeping Doom.

 

After Cleric, Druid is my go-to character. I actually started Kingmaker as a Druid, hoping to multiclass with Rogue or Vivisectionist in order to boost the forms with a sneak attack, but I haven't gotten around to playing more of it yet. I'm really fascinated by the shapeshifting, but the only games to have ever done it right are NWN1 (Shifter) and strangely enough WoW. But I never seriously played a Druid in WoW either because Priest (later on Paladin because they were more like Priests at one point) was my one and true love.

 

Pathfìnder actually has feats to make weapon attributes to follow you in your shapeshifts (Weapon Shifts). Then Feats for spellcasting under shapeshift (Natural Spells). Then feats for natural attacks to use improved unarmed strike line of feats (Feral Combat Training). Honestly with them in the game Druid as a shapeshifting full caster support DPS is good.

The problem is all of them are not in the game. COTW added them to the game(besides the improved unarmed one) and suddenly Druid is fun to play and is very distinctive from Cleric. Owlcat intentionally butchered Druid implementation in PfK.

Another problem is Druid weather manipulation powers don't translate well from PnP to video games I guess.

 

How come pathfinder doesnt have improved animal companion or mount grappling feats? A ranger and his bear should be able to do a assisted suplex on a opponent that adds more difficulty check to break the pin or possibly a stunning effect also if they fail their fortitude save.