Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Owlcat's next Pathfinder RPG - now in ALPHA

I'm going to have a hard time playing any Mythic Path but Trickster.

Persuasion Trick = free Demoralize (of all foes) to open combat
Lore (Religion) = Treat Affliction can remove any condition

Every Skill gets a major upgrade along those lines (you choose one per level). There's also a re-roll all skill checks Mythic ability, and another one that gives you +3 to all checks. So smoove.

 

Same here, I'm digging chaotic dialog options much more this time also.We can really play tricks on them fools.

 

What do you mean more open? Beta build is limited to those who got early access tier only. If you are asking if we can share more info more openly with those without the beta access, I have no idea!

 

I think he meant about the game being more open, like more acts/quests. While I think being more open is needed to weed out the bugs but I really don't want to spoil myself more.

 

It's an infamous WoW clone which was (according to people who played it, never tried it myself) pretty decent, but then the devs tacked on the most exploitative and annoying f2p system on top of it in the times when that was quite rare - it could be that Allods were actually the first pay2win MMO with that kind of focus on micro-transactions (I guess that's what traumatized guestposting that hard )

 

See, Russians are the first not only in space.

 

Paging Lacrymas

Looks like there is way, way, way more branching than I thought as the game goes on.

From a recent Q&A with the developers:

So substantially shorter than Kingmaker with a fuckton more branching, which mostly comes after you choose a mythic path at the end of chapter 2.

Welcome to the hype train, you sons of bitches.

 

Hopefully, each playthrough is still substantially long tho. PfK was what? 90ish hours I think? My Steam play hours is kinda wonky because I restarted too much.

And the Devil path is most likely tied to the stretch goal dungeon with the sphinx waifu?

Additionally, the Demon path is hopefully more thematic instead of just "join the Demon" route. Lich and Swarm based on current information are very unlikely will be interesting for me. It would be annoying if I need to add Demon to the list of Mythic Path I am not playing.

 

A lot longer than 90 hours. Easily 140-160 if you do the last chapter against the lantern king.

It sounds like with the demon path, you don’t so much join the demon invasion as take over the demon invasion. That or you form your own horde to topple the ruling demon lord and take his place.

Edit: Infinitron here you go: https://forum.owlcatgames.com/t/heres-a-summary-of-the-twitch-q-a-from-may-8-2020/19974

 

Can't blame Paizo for being careful around that area. WOTC are pretty litigious, ironically fitting the LE Devil stereotype rather well.

 

Well. I'd be very impressed if they can pull this off. When is this game coming out?

 

I honestly am expecting of more inner struggle stuff. While certainly not Good I was expecting a Chaotic Neutral kind of stuff while you are trying to reign the demonic influence instead of fully going bananas with power.

Supposedly June 2021. That's a fairly optimistic estimate tho imo

 

Honestly this is not inspiring at all for the modding part. A good modding game is modular from the grounds up. Having it to be done later in development will probably make for a half-arsed modding support. Oh well.

 

Official modding support will probably be very limp wristed compared to what people can already do with Unity patching. The main limitation with KM modding right now is it's very hard to get new art assets into the game. If they can resolve that then people will be able to do a lot of things.

I expect at the very least any missing features that already existed as mods for KM will be ported over very quickly.

 

With big branching paths I fear this is going to be remembered as the Incredible Bugfest of 2021. In Kingmaker they didn't manage to polish simple branching decisions with no real impact (even small details like the Pitax academy choice were so bugged they could break your entire playthrough); if they are going for choices that can modify substantial parts of the game, they are walking an incredible dangerous path. Hopefully, they learned from their past mistakes.

 

Assuming they take pre-release testing a bit more seriously this time I find branching playthroughs to be more interesting and ambitious.

Hopefully it also makes the game a bit shorter and concentrated compared to Kingmaker as player fatigue kicked in when reaching the end game.

 

That's why I don't play games the moment they are released ;d I'm not willing to alpha test for them.

 

44. How will dismemberment work? Will it be a graphical thing? Or, will it have some mechanics to it?

Definitely will see it visually, not sure if there will be any mechanics at play yet.

 

The easiest way would be to release more onto Early Access. Most devs get too scared of late game spoilers though.

Both Wasteland 2 and D:OS had very polished early chapters due to the length of time they were in EA, sadly the later game chapters were far buggier and less polished because those areas hadn't had much player testing.

However good your QA is, you'll never beat a bunch of players marauding through your game and unintentionally breaking everything. Always been my experience with end users in regular software development.

 

If they want to keep the 1-20 progression, the game can't be much shorter than Kingmaker, where you already level up crazy fast.

 

You level up even crazy faster in the original WOTR AP. WOTR is one of the few APs you hit level 20 (most APs finish at 17) in and you hit it relatively early.

 

İn that Q&A they stated that this is all the content for alpha, maybe at closed/open beta stages we'll see more.

 

You'll just level crazy fast. I'd make levels 1 to 10 slower because that's where these types of games shine and lvl 10+ is basically just a blender getting more bananas with each level-up, so it doesn't really matter how fast you level then.

 

Do people serious believe that a lv 10 party can stop a demon invasion and defeat a demon lord? You will gonna need to nerf enemies so much...

Not true and we already have BG3 and Solasta with lv cap = 10. But how dare people who enjoy high level gameplay having a single high level game. Every game needs to be low level slaying bandits on Faerun. Lets burn all books/modules about Underdark, Feyworld, Shadowfel, Abyss, elemental planes, etc; because NO FUN ALLOWED. If your idea of fun is different than mine. /sarcasm

Will probably have epic mythic levels.

And i disagree that kingmaker is a game which you level up fast. Comparing to P&P sure. Comparing to other CRPG, not. NWN1 on base campaign and hotu has you leveling far faster; The first chapter is far quicker and you can be at lv 9~11 at the end of chap 1. In fact, considering that the game is 150 hours long, and that if you don't use XP sharing and do the DLCs you will end up arrond lv 17, it is almost one level per 10 hours on average. Even if you complete the game fast and has the DLC's and everything, is almost like a lv per 5 hours.

edit : More about mythic adventures https://www.d20pfsrd.com/alternative-rule-systems/mythic/