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KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

Discussion in 'Tactical Gaming' started by Infinitron, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. PanteraNera Cipher

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  2. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    So if you played 2012 xcom, you know the "genre"?

    First, xcom is not a genre despite whatever Gollop may fancy and second if you played only xcom and you're perturbed by a different UI type, you know shit.
     
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  3. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    They only had to introduce "TUs" for you to start sound more and more like a retarded apologist?

    The context is all there, it's not like I took out only the underlined text.
     
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  4. ArchAngel Arcane

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    He beats you as you sound just like a retard.
     
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  5. PanteraNera Cipher

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    Well that is the thing everyone assumes so much, I did the same and stated so and try to correct now what my very assumptions started. I try to get facts that is all I want and all I care for. Also I am still saying it again and again, I don't know if I will like the "end-result" there are way to many question marks left (which I also state regularly).

    If that makes me an apologist, well feel free to ignore me and bitch about stuff that was bitched about two months ago. I am sure that it will be way more productive this time :roll:
     
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  6. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Seems Juliian Gollop is not doing that bad after all.


     
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    To be fair there are luxury yachts for 500 million and for 100k. That's one. And second, it's not clear it's HIS yacht. Have Gollop made any super successful mobile games?
     
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  9. Trans-Financial-Man Savant

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    I keep flip floping on whether I like PP or not based on the shit being revealed by the devs. I will say that I found the original X-Com interface to be pretty fucking awful. I like not having to go through several menus in order to throw a fucking grenade. From what I recall 10 years back when I played Jagged Alliance 2 for the first and only time, it had a more intuitive interface in that you could click on one of your dudes, then click on the enemy and that was it. Cool. Loads of menus littered about the place like it's a Windows 98 come back party isn't depth. It's autism.
     
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  10. UnstableVoltage Snapshot Games Developer

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    Not sure whose yacht, but it isn't Julian's. He's pictured there with Daniel Vavra - co-founder of Warhorse Studios.
     
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  11. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    It's funny this coming from someone that was compared to a broken record around here and your "bitching" via walls of text really pushed the envelope.
    So stop brown-nosing yourself by stressing what is old news and what part you had in that because you become a "productive" caricature.
     
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    The meme is funny but I doubt it has anything to do in this thread, it should be rather posted on Facebook. Doesn't seem to be many ADHD gamers around here.
     
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  13. PanteraNera Cipher

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    https://www.greenmangaming.com/blog/old-meets-new-in-phoenix-point/
     
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  14. PanteraNera Cipher

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    Well surprise surprise I am still the same guy.
    So yeah bring up assumptions (that I have made in the first place) and I will clarify why they were wrong, like a broken record.

    But hey be creative and make assumptions on your own, I know you can do it as I had genuinely enjoyed them in the past.
    For starters talk about the redesign of New Jericho, that they won't release on Q4 2018, or that they show to little progress.

    So your advice is: do not act mature and responsible, do not clear up confusions you created? Sorry can't do. Not my style.
     
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  15. Shog-goth Learned Patron

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    The Game Formerly Known As X-Com.

    Damn! That's the real issue that prevented younger ones to play X-Com, I can't believe I forgot that.
     
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  16. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    Your style is to suck your own dick, grandstanding and failing to stay on point during an argument.
    If this keeps up any longer soon I'll find out what you had for lunch on your first day of school.
    So spare me.
     
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  17. PanteraNera Cipher

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    Like I said, just ignore me, easy, just a click.
    But looks like that you rather suck my dick and support me on my big grandstanding-scheme!

    And yes you are much better to stay on point than me.
    And still, I think you are a very funny and entertaining guy, but right now you are way to butthurt over me changing my point of view.
     
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  18. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Gollop's "Time Units vs 2 Action Points" talk is in 14 hours. Hopefully someone writes report about it.
     
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  19. Mustawd Arcane

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    *looks at tons of XCOM clones*

    :hmmm:
     
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  20. Galdred Studio Draconis Patron Developer

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    1,3 are great, but 2 is gamey and unrealistic:
    handing off a grenade does not give you any more extra time before detonation (or end of turn or whatever). The whole point of TU is to make the game a better simulation. I don't think handing off a primed grenade (up to 13 times in the same turn) is a good exemple of that.
    This issue is easier to solve with AP, though: just set the AP of the receiver to min of (his TUs, TUs of the guy doing the hand off)
     
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  21. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    Is Diablo a genre also?
    OK then!


    you are retarded indeed
     
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  22. Trans-Financial-Man Savant

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    Actually, yeah. Considering all the diablo clones hanging about. Loot based Action RPGs are a dime a dozen. Diablo clone is an easy term to say for them.
     
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  24. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    I like how you invalidate your own attempt to make a point.

    "Considering all the diablo clones hanging about"
    thank you for pointing the obvious that I used as a rebuttal.

    So the "quality" of a game being unoriginal and an attempt to a cashgrab to be named someone's clone" is a reason by itself to name an entire genre after that successful game?

    X-com was a game that mixed genres in a unique and successful way.
    To say the 2012 xcom started a genre by itself when it nearly abandoned some features that made the predecessor a hybrid, is more insulting and stupid.

    LoL at that one that asks about fire rates for automatic weapons.
    If this would be in, this feature would have to be represented in the UI and so, in no time you'll have a a complex "jumble of confusing mouse-driven buttons" very hard to make it also controller friendly.

    But of course they will make different UI design for PC and console with all the extra cash! :)
     
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    Following their line of thinking I'd place the option "fire mode" in the center of the selection wheel, together with "swap".

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