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Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Infinitron, May 8, 2018.

  1. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    You can also be cruel and kind while being dishonest and honest. The alignment system is garbage,D&D have pretty logical system,i see no reason to use something similar. If they care about license they could just use different words like anarchic and orderly.
     
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  2. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    speaking of broken things

    [​IMG]

    pictured: serafen running in circles from the steel preacher while boreale peppers him with grazes

    not pictured: serafen finally going down, forcing boreale to constantly hide behind a rock to break the preacher's aggro and continue to pepper him with grazes until he dies :lol:
     
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  3. Shadenuat Arcane

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    You really like to tackle content twice your level I see :thumbsup:
     
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  4. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    i appreciate a game that allows me to do that
     
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  5. Morality Games Arcane Patron

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Serpent in the Staglands Bubbles In Memoria A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    I mean, to the extent that a civilization of Dark Elves who are philosophically, culturally, and religiously committed to evil and anarchy in a self-conscious, purposeful way can be logical.

    Characters and factions in Eora tend to act the same way historical personalities and countries have acted in history; in a morally elusive, difficult-to-evaluate way.
     
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  6. Parabalus Arcane

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    That's when AI comes in - on e.g. boss fights I want to use all 7 fighterpoints points manually, for trash fights not really, just like I don't need/want to aim Devotions manually on trash fights, but I do on bosses.
    In IE fighters are always brainless and I'd just micro spellcasters more, why not spread the micro around, if total micro is conserved?

    It's currently questionable whether Dumpsterfire has even broken 100k on Steam, 300k is looking more and more like a fever dream.
     
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  7. dragonul09 Arcane Edgy

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    At the end? I wanted to be the scourge of DeadFire from the start, not at the end. I've done 50 quests and sure you can lie in some of them and have some neutral-chaotic choices, but you can't be evil, you can't consort with evil people, you can't join with the Vampires to kill everyone else BG 2 style evil, you just can't maximize your evilness, everything ends up with you being mildly assholish, that's not evil. Hell, even Dragon Age Origins gave you the choice to kill almost every single companion you met and some of them in gruesome ways, which was pretty dandy.
     
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  8. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Well it makes everyone grey and boring. Greyness is good when in contrast to good/evil. If everyone and everything is grey,then it is boring.
     
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  9. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    My thoughts exactly, and nothing easier than that. But what would be cool would be if you toned down all abilities significantly, so that they only hit normally with Empower. Welcome to the world of per-rest abilities, with sadistically weak per-encounter versions.

    You can also do this with level scaling on/scale only upwards. Nothing will get downscaled to match you, but everything below your level will be upscaled to your level.

    I can't stop myself from clicking abilities even on trash fights, or now that there are no "trash fights", on the final surviving enemies. My assumption is that this way I will end them quicker, which is not always true, due to the sheer time needed to click and target while paused. After a certain point, I'd have been better off just autoattacking the trash. The thing is, it's difficult to calculate which is better on the fly.
     
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  10. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Too bad companions are all just modern nice friendly gay peoplez. With accents.

    And yeah I think saying that everyone acts in Eora historically is not very true is it. Difficult to evaluate maybe.
     
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  11. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Yes you can,the vampires at the lower left island can be talked to,you could recruit them to fight the other factions. Still waiting to see someone doing it.
     
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  12. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    degenerate
     
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  13. Parabalus Arcane

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    The first would then entail rebalancing all passives, since very rarely would something be worth using with -10 PL. Seems pointless, but I get you probably meant in tongue in cheek.

    I usually micro just my PC+ some casters in every fight, stuff like rangers/monks/fighters only in important battles.

    I think that choice is fake, I tried doing it and it only led to
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    being able to poison him. You also meant the lower right island, right?
     
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  14. Morality Games Arcane Patron

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Serpent in the Staglands Bubbles In Memoria A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Disappointing launch sales are possible, and at $50, probably guaranteed.

    Long term commercial failure seems impossible.
     
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    If anyone is mad enough to try to rebalance the damage/duration of every ability in the game, and do this without really knowing how and how much Empower actually improves them, he has my admiration :lol:

    I would just cut the empowers per level to 0, and set the starting empower to 0, much cleaner. Criticals should be "empowered" versions enough for everyone.

    BTW what happens if you empower a high level direct damage spell and it crits? It should leave a crater in the ground.

    I have to have everything under control and this ends with me spending most of the combats in paused mode.
     
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  16. Lacrymas Arcane

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    I've been saying this since forever. I brought it up in a different context, though, since spellcasters weren't as overpowered as they seem to have been buffed now for release, but the end conclusion is the same - it has to be removed.
     
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  17. Wulfric Pinewood Savant Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    The more i play PoE2, the more i LOVE this already great game. What a fucking INCLINE ORGASM!
    I want Pillars 3 already! [And Tyranny 2 between] .
    :hailcthulhu:
     
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  18. Parabalus Arcane

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    I did that in PoE1 but felt pointless in Deadfire with the undertuned combat.

    Empowered Wilting Wind from Aloth (so not optimized) does around 300 Raw damage in a huge AoE on a crit IIRC. Meteor shower probably does 800 total per target, never tried to parse that or Storm of Holy fire though. Disintegrate does around 1k Raw to one target over 20 ish seconds. If you empower the chanter dragon summon it lands with over 2k health.

    :balance:
     
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  19. FreeKaner Prophet of the Dumpsterfire

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    1 Empower per encounter can stay it's fun. Just remove its ability to give power points and cut power points across the board.

    Everyone has too much mana. Add some of it back as passive abilities or something for making spammer builds.
     
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  20. Parabalus Arcane

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    Probably best to cut high level ability power cost and lower the total power pool - you can spam too much low level stuff at high levels IMO.

    Just give empower to enemies, so you too get your shit pushed in by empowerd Amplified Waves or Cleansing Fires.
     
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  21. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Yes,i got the option to give him something adra and to say to them that they don't need to eat people and can eat something adra. I believe that i stole the adra from the mill,its picture have some adra in a cup.
     
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  22. MajorMace Savant

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    It was supposed to be the case iirc.

    A constant in this series.
     
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  23. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    Given the drastically improved production values in this game ( full VO, better graphics and tons of handcrafted content instead of endless bands of trash mobs) Obsidian must have invested fuckton of their own money into this beyond what they got from Fig. They were already working on this thing and were far into production by the time Fig campaign started.

    And don't forget Fig investors get a significant cut in royalties.

    So while the game will definitely be profitable in the end, it's not enough for it to just be go out of the red zone if we are to get another decent sequel.

    More importantly, if Fig investors don't break even on their 2 million, Fig is fucking dead and buried. They could go back to Kickstarter but hype died out so there's no chance they get another 4 million from crowdfunding.
     
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  24. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I thought you were a founder.

    Wouldn't you say 'us'?
     
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  25. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    "They" make the games, I just sit around, hire my nephews and collect phat paychecks.
     
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