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Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pre-DLC Thread

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Infinitron, May 8, 2018.

  1. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    Nah, in its current state, it's like eating an undercooked chicken.
     
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  2. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Wait, wut. So berath blessing that supposed to double your starting class skills for 3 cheevos just straight add 2 points to all your AND your party members class skills? So each character can have up to 20 free skill points. Up to 100 if you have 5 multiclassed characters. For 3 points.

    You know what else worth 3 achievment points in the list? 5.000 gold. +2 to all stats only to your main character worth 15 points.
     
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  3. Pizzashoes Educated

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    I'm ready to fight, and you give me this? At least call me an underbaked chicken.
     
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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    How do you get Dark Xoti? She sounds like fun.
     
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  5. Pizzashoes Educated

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    Just hit the buttons that encourage her sick fascination with reaping souls. The girl is a complete degenerate.
     
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    Yo, serious question: were Dwarves a race in PoE1? I just noticed that this race exists for the first time in PoE2 and did a quadruple-take.
     
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  7. Swampy_Merkin Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Shitposter

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    This is as good a thread as any to post this question in...it's actually probably not. But i'm going to anyway. I've always hated RTwP games....I've tried to play BG1 & 2....as well as Pillars 1. In none of those games have I made it past the first few fights.

    Having to pause 2 or 3 times per combat second is inherently irritating and boring to me. The only RTwP games I've finished are PS:T (because of the brilliant storytelling) and the KOTORs because....I don't know....they were just good enough.

    Is there another game you would consider the kind of crack cocaine that might get me hooked on this kind of gameplay. I'm talking about a classic RTwP (or RTwP-style) game that would get me hooked on the genre?
     
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  9. Pizzashoes Educated

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    RTwP is annoying. To play it well, you have to cockblock the combat. That is, you interrupt the flow with the pause button. Every pause you must plan on making your guys move or do an action, see the effects, and then you have to pause, analyze what the enemy is doing, pause, reflect, counter, pause, and then see what the enemy is doing, and then pause. The majority of real time is actually spent paused, figuring out what you should do. This is crazy annoying. The saving grace is you are personally commanding this complicated clusterfuck. Your actions dictate whether the party lives or dies. I can sometimes love it. Other times, it's just a drag. Of course, playing Darkest Dungeon or Age of Decadence can convince you that turn-based has its own problems. Animations take forever!

    If you can't feel the glory in personally micro-managing six different adventurers acting concurrently in Baldur's Gate 2, fuck it. Play on easy. Pillars 2 has a lot of fun outside the combat.
     
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    If you never liked RTWP, Deadfire won't change your mind. Good RTWP game - I don't know. I've always liked IWD.
     
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    One really good RTWP game (not RPG) I remember, with somewhat complex combat (positioning, terrain and unit experience meant everything) was Myth: TFL, and Myth II: Soulblighter. There are enough videos on youtube of both.

    And guess what - combat there was orders of magnitude slower when on default speed, compared to the IE games or PoE. On the upside - you didn't need to pause more than 1-2 times per combat encounter. But I guess that would be laughed out by modern retard players for not being "visceral" enough.
     
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    Fake news. In Deadfire right now you don't need to pause so it's perfect game to start.
     
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  13. HoboForEternity Arcane

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    You guys arent kidding about how easy it is.

    On veteran, met a boss in old city ruin that have 3 red skulls over its head, and i killed it w/o anyone even dying.
    Should have potd'ed since the begjnning
     
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    Honestly i would love it if I could program my toons to react intelligently to whatever combat situation i get into (even retroactively by reloading). If I can do that with Pillars 2 on PotD even after difficulty upgrade I think I might enjoy it.

    I like the idea of scripting character actions/reactions a la ff xii.
     
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  15. Pizzashoes Educated

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    Right on, man. If you get the desire for some more Baldur's Gate, play with Sword Coast Strategems. The guy who made it is a skilled programmer, he understood everything about the combat, he knew the ins and outs of what made the entire game work, and he knew the modding scene.

    Dwarves are in PoE1. I understand why you might have missed them. They are very short. A forgettable companion, Sagani, is a dwarf.

    The current iteration of PotD Pillars 1 is very restrictive in terms of viable routes for builds and paths to safely obtain experience, but I literally played Trial of Iron PotD on PoE2 blind and safely cleared all the encounters. Wait a bit if you're looking for a challenge. (I also took a risk/reward approach, so I didn't slay any dragons.)
     
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    Every time I've wanted to play BG I've wanted the original experience. Never became that much of a fan to put in the time to make a special modded playthrough.
     
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    You might want to try playing some RTS games. Spellforce is a middle ground between RTwP and RTS, Warcraft 3 with the abilities on units plays similarly, Starcraft1&2 as well.

    From the RPG side Dragon Age:Origins is verysimilar to Deadfire's system, with the AI and all. If you play it though go to the nexus to install a few needed mods.

    What do mages do in vanilla? Stuff like Yuan-ti mages, or the one Raeric G. you kill for Mae'Var, do they start with any spell protections? Stoneskin? What about the cowled enforcers who teleport in if you cast magic, do you they come in with full buffs like SCS or naked?
     
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  18. Kit Walker Totally Not Captain Shrek

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    Play river of time. It has a bit low tier storytelling, but nothing terrible. The RTwP is quite okay. Also, Dragon Age Origins, another biowarian romance simulator but still it is quite okay. Darklands, because of the setting and handling the world. The combat is shit though.
     
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    I've had DA:O on my HD for months now but haven't bothered to open it. In between forum posts here tonight I've been watching some videos and it looks like it might be the game to start with that genre. I don't know....Pillars1(I won't call it PoE because that is reserved for Path of Exiles)) looked so fucking pretty that I really wanted to like it....maybe I'll just play it on story mode just to get through the nice artwork....bleh.
     
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    As far as I remember, you can smash Raeric Gethras with just Minsc if you have Liliacor, and the slavers compound is usually the first quest you do after you are left free in the slums. What I remember doing more than once is launch Jaheira's insect swarm which prevents him from casting and just waiting out his protections to end.
     
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  21. Pizzashoes Educated

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    Yeah, I understand. I still occasionally play Baldur's Gate only because I like the power fantasy. You start as a scrub and build toward a god. I don't even like the combat much. Too much auto-attack and too much bullshit with buffing and dispelling buffs. I only like the modded version because it makes the game hard while creating encounters realistic enough that your rise to glory feels satisfying.
     
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  22. Pizzashoes Educated

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    Dragon Age: Origins is mediocre. In every aspect, it will passably fulfill your expectations. The game might be a good example of a generic, bog-standard, but acceptable piece of shit.

    Posters here like to invoke the term "flawed gem," meaning they acknowledge the game has its flaws while thinking some redeeming qualities they've identified override these flaws.

    But Dragon Age: Origins has no sparkle. Just a dull mass of thoughtlessness.

    I say this, but I enjoyed the game when I was underage. It's not bad. It just doesn't have anything good about it.
     
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    Despite all its faults, DA:O is a good starting point for this genre, especially if you are used to playing only AAA garbage. I usually recommend people start with either it or KotOR when talking about party-based RPGs. If they've never looked at an RPG, or they don't know it even exists as a genre, I recommend Deus Ex.
     
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    On normal, I didn't mind DA:O's combat and just played it for the story. It has its good moments, all the effort to reaching Andraste's temple, the buildup from the secluded village to the top of the mountain, it felt like a really nice experience and I really believed that I was interacting with a relic, because I had read and heard so much about it prior to finding it. It was "epic" enough to be a separate game all on its own. I think that quest can be a lesson to anyone trying to build a story about something *epic*.

    Orzammar was also very interesting to explore. Denerim, naturally, wasn't. I am sorry the final political part of the main quest wasn't more dragged out in time, and elaborated on, but it also felt very interesting. The origin stories vary in how interesting they are, but there are some really cool ones.
     
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  25. Swampy_Merkin Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Shitposter

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    Babe..thx for the recommendation. I'm well steeped in party-based RPGSs....been playing them for 20 years. I'm just looking for a new reason to get into an old genre that I've never liked. If DA:O is the candy-coated garbage I need to make the medicine go down then....fuck it...I've tried all the straight dope, and it left me gagging.
     
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