Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

You refuse to play it. It is very much playable. Playable enough for people to complete it. Don't worry though, you seem like a very special person. All us others aren't.

 

http://steamcommunity.com/stats/230230/achievements Not a very high number. I won't consider them playable until Larian and inXile finish their major rebalance passes.

I might not even get the expansion. I'll start it when the major bugs are fixed. I doubt there'll be any need for extreme balance changes, just a lot of minor tweaking.

 

less than 5% finished dos? whilst the game after cyseal took an unforgiving nose dive, i would not have expected such low numbers.

 

What do you consider an extreme balance change? A big change in a number?

 

That's nothing new. A lot of gamers don't finish games. Even AAA games have like 25-35% of people completing them. And those games are supposed to be geared towards the masses. STEAM acievemtns don't mean much to me, personally.

The Banner Saga has a 12,9% completion rate on Normal difficulty. Less than 30% has the Dragonslayer achievement. Skyrim isn't really a hard game and it is as streamlined as it gets. 14,5% completed the main quest of The Witcher 2. Less than 10% finished Blackguards.

I searched and searhed and the only RPG I found with a higher completion rate than 50% was South Park: The Stick of Truth.

 

Fart jokes = higher completion rate in rpgs. Science

 

How easy was it though?

 

Steam-users.

I rest my case.

 

Yeah, Steam, you know that place where almost anyone who plays games buys their games. Such an unreliable metric.

 

Almost everyone except a few select PC hipsters.

The true elite, in other words.

The rest of us are but mere mortals in comparison.

 

It was not easier than most rpgs at normal difficulty I found. I suspect the south Park show fan base had something to do it higher competition rates, as the game functions like an extended episode story and pacing wise.

 

Really easy to the point that the mechanics are useless.

I don't know what happened during development, but its actually quite funny to notice encounters set up specifically (resitances, abilities and so on) and then they don't matter at all.

 

That partially explains the 50%. There's a lot of people that just quit when they lose at something after a few go's. The other thing is yeah - the South Park episode/movie thing.

 

The Ubisoft producer in the Something Awful South Park thread said they were open to DLC, but Matt and Trey loathe it.

Dragonfall Director's Cut, and what's going on with D:OS (e.g. that resistance cap which prevents total immunity from elemental damage without the use of consumables), I'd even say DKS's removal of level as a stat. Changes that have a very noticeable effect on the way it plays.

I'm sure there are masochistic completionists out there who would/could complete just about anything.

Though Josh says one shouldn't assume a low-completion rate means dissatisfaction, since there are many people who are perfectly fine with messing around with something for a few hours and moving on. However those stats do show that of the small percentage of those who made it to the second area, a little less than half made it to the last. Though those last were pretty much in it for the long haul, completing it.

 

Most people also have a lot of games in their collections these days and limited time. It's not the 1980s when most gamers were teenagers who would spend an entire Summer holiday trying to finish a Wizardry or something.

 

South Park was also an incredibly short game so it was very easy to complete. Not sure how long Wasteland 2 is but I highly doubt it was 12 hours long.

 

Wasteland 2 is actually shorter than 12 hours if you remove the bad parts.

 

South Park is longer than dragonfall, banner saga, and about as big as Wl2 main quest I figure.

 

Wasteland 2 is longer. South Park is an extremely short game, probably even shorter than Dragonfall.

 

South Park, doing almost everything (i missed about 8 chinpokomons), don't go further than 13 hours. Dragonfall, both the original release and the Director's Cut, is longer.

Also, I have to say South Park was somewhat a dissapointment. It's a heavily rehash of every popular South Park joke, there's almost anything new about it, more than delivering it through videogame format. I'm a huge South Park fan, and I like in cases like this some fanservice, but the entire game was just reusing what the sow had already done.

 

I'd bet pirates have a higher completion rate since they actually put effort into attaining the game.

But Wasteland 2 is fucking rubbish. Can't really blame anyone for not finishing that trash.