Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Well you argued in good faith.

As I mentioned in the other thread making something or changing something as a modder is a whole different thing as changing it as a dev due to all the development overhead.
Even a small change means the involvement of multiple people at some point. Not to mention the management of development resources so one little thing can take days.

This helps to not mess things up when making a whole game, but its a bitch to deal with for a small change/addition.

Of course, that's at least what I imagine it to be. Anthony Davis would know more/better.

 

Looks really cool, but I liked the versions made by the guys in that dedicated thread here much better. Right now it's just some stretched textures over the U Shape :/

 

Yeah, Bester and Grotesque should work together to implement the UI Grotesque made.

 

That would be considerably harder to implement, since it doesn't make use of any of the existing assets.

 

How can two people work together when one thinks the other's work is shit?

Anyway, I started doing this mockup to serve as an inspiration for others.
If it doesn't make it into the game, at least I learned to use Photoshop as I never used it until now.

EDIT: for anyone interested, the latest iteration

 

Is there a way to mod it? Group wide stealth would probably make me ignore the mechanic altogether.

 

They are going to change it to per-character after release.

 

Using the per-encounter abilities gets pretty rote though. Since they're essentially free, it's a no-brainer to use them, even more so when you have multiple.

 

The per-encounter abilities are much more useful than a normal attack. Also, auto-attack is automated, per-encounters require micro-management.

Oddly enough, some of the abilities that are situational and would benefit from being per encounter - like Arcane Veil - are per-rest currently.

 

I edited my post. And no, that's not it, it's the fact that you're always doing the same thing. I can't think of a situation where using Knockdown or Arcane Assault isn't better than a normal attack.

I would actually be fine with just a single use per encounter, because that would entail some thought about when to best use it.

 

If you choose to spam the same ability over and over, how is it the system's fault?

 

Yeah, if i wanna "Press X to Jaesun" over and over. I'm gonna do it.

Zep--

 

Without contex/anything concrete, the example with the bad/different choices doesn't mean much. I assume it's about character builds.(?) There wouldn't be a "bad" choice to remove without a dev putting it in in the first place. No? So how many devs go out of their way to put "bad" choices into their games?
And how does the presence of a suboptimal option detract from the better ones? People having an easier/more difficult time on playthroughs? That will massively differ anyway. People simply play too differently. When somebody feels too (little) challenged they can change the difficulty setting.
And if it is such a huge issue and the imbalances are massive, why not rebalance all 3 options, so they are similarly useful? As he states in that other quote for nerfing Sensuki's builds and the sniper rifle. He doesn't remove the builds that seem weaker.
I wish he'd given an example of a "bad choice". Any examples in that thread, Sensuki?

(I like how "perfect" balance suddenly is not a goal anymore and never has been. Balance sure seemed like his no.1 focus in pretty much everything I've read from him since PE was in development.)

 

I just spotted this article where apparently *someone from Obsidian* has said the expansion will be in the style of "Tales of the Sword Coast": http://www.gamewatcher.com/news/201...n-wants-improvements-rolled-into-a-free-patch

I remember this was something people were speculating about recently.

I am very satisfied that they won't be going stupid and adopting Paradox' repulsive DLC policy.

 

That's interesting. I wonder how the new content would be integrated into the game, what with the reputation mechanics and all.

What would that accomplish? Knock down targets Deflection and inflicts a penalty to Deflection and Reflexes.

 

The thinking behind this is that people can (and would) just rest between every encounter in IE anyways. Now some people (like me) would larp and self restrict resting, but I think this is an acceptable compromise. You can self-restrict per-encounter abilities as well, though it seems like the game will be balanced around using them.

 

I don't see how those are comparable. Imposing rest restrictions made the IE games more fun/interesting to play by adding an element of strategical resource management (even if illusory), which isn't the case with per-encounters. And that line of reasoning is also at odds with the design of the rest of the game - restring is restricted in PoE, after all.