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Eternity Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Pre-Release Thread [BETA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by One-and-a-half-Ivan, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    What did Sawyer say about the original PoE companions? I mean, they were marketed as fully fleshed companions, only for that depth to be skin deep.
     
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  2. TT1 Cipher Patron

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    Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    I really hope they create a tier "create a sidekick". Easy way to increase sidekick numbers and the money.

    Win-win situation.
     
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  3. Lacrymas Arcane

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    To be fair, almost everything in PoE1 was undercooked.
     
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  4. TT1 Cipher Patron

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  5. Zed Codex Staff Patron

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    I think you underestimate the sidekick feature. There's still a unique VA (although not as much spoken dialogue as a regular companion), portrait and quest.
    Also everything player-created in PoE sucked ass. The less the better.

    What they could do is add more goodies and new tiers between 200-500 dollars.
     
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  6. TT1 Cipher Patron

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    I agree with you. But I think this time they will know better how to work with backers. I hope.
     
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  7. Iznaliu Arbiter

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    Was this something to do with the fact that Obsidian had to create an engine from scratch and ran out of time?; No, it can't be; Obshitian purposely fucked up the game to spite the Codex! I know that's true since I looked into MCA's eyes and saw an image of a cackling Josh Sawyer.

    Obsidian likely doesn't want to bother with working with backers.
     
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  8. Maculo Prophet

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    Alright, if this comes to pass, we have to make Darth Roxxor or Sensuki into a side-kick. Their side-quest will be to hunt down Prime Junta.
     
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    People are creating NPCs, pirates, pets, etc. From this point, create a sidekick is not much different. I think its easy money to obsidian.
     
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    Oh, this is me, actually. You can blame me next year.
     
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  11. Lacrymas Arcane

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    They didn't create a new engine lol, they used Unity. Everything is undercooked because it was too much and nothing was given enough time.
     
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  12. Iznaliu Arbiter

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    I meant they had to create everything from scratch as a game like this hadn't been made in 10 years, but who demanded all this crap? Clue: fans who wanted BG1, BG2, IWD, and PS:T all in one package.
     
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  13. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Not really, they themselves came up with those ridiculous stretch goals and promises. "Fans" didn't force them to do anything. Obsidian said that they wanted to make a mix of BG, IWD and PS:T.
     
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  14. BlackGoat Savant

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    I like the idea of sidekicks, don't like the idea of flagging them differently than NPCs with arcs. Kills mystery. Wondering if every joinable NPC is deeper than they seem would add to the game. Knowing right away "Oh this guy is special and this guy is basic" takes away from the game.
     
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  15. Azarkon Arcane

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    It's better that they know, because you don't want to go through a game thinking that one of these characters is a full companion, when they aren't. It'd lead to players complaining about not getting the experience the developers said they would.

    But how are you going to make this obvious? Help text that comes up the instant a party member joins, telling you whether this companion is fully developed or not? That would be terrible, but the other direction leads to confusion.
     
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  16. ushas Savant

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    Btw. what do you say to new scripted interactions? That's one thing I'm looking forward to, and really liked what they said in the second Q&A. I believe we got the first glimpse in this update's (#14) video.

    [​IMG]
    Nice. However, for some reason those black & white frames feel too forced to me. Perhaps would be better if pictures of party members could hold the stronger impression that they belong to the book.

    More in book feel (though it's just botched mock up, i'm not an artist):
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    Or at least in King of Dragon Pass, mentioned by Merlkir some pages back, the portrait incorporation felt less intrusive to me (they use white to highlight):
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  17. oldmanpaco Master of Siestas

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    So who in BG2 would be a sidekick?
     
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  18. Rivmusique Arcane Patron

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  19. 2house2fly Erudite

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    It's probably a bit late in the campaign but that'd be cool. Who's your cool OC, race/class/background/dispositions, leave the dialogue to us, a bunch of fun characters to haul around.

    Yeah, if they'd advertised it as a spiritual sequel to just IWD or PST then expectations would have been different. I guess they wanted as much attention as they could get, but you make the bed you lie in it.
     
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  20. oldmanpaco Master of Siestas

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    Yeah besides him?

    Yoshimo, Mazzy, Jan, and Korgan were not involved in a romance or stronghold. Imoen is a special case of course and you could add Yoshimo in that category as well.

    So just those 4 or 5?


    edit: Mazzy was part of the Ranger stronghold I suppose.
     
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  23. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Re: Camping Supplies

    IMO, Lords of Xulima had the right idea. Food. A resource that always needs to be considered and pondered. It scales in expensiveness throughout the game, and although that's not really "realistic", it balances the game well and makes it an interesting resource management element. It's especially interesting on harder difficulty levels, where money is scarce and one needs to carefully manage it.

    By either raising the cost drastically on the camping supplies, scaling the price throughout the game or making them limited in some other way will remedy the issue of them essentially being meaningless. Since people can just return to town to buy them all the time they are not an essential resource to manage just yet.
     
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  24. Morality Games Arcane Patron

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    This is one of the ideas I would dismiss as impossible at a glance but has potential when you consider it longer.

    Popular sidekicks could graduate to greater roles in future stories set in this world.
     
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  25. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Well, then they just become typical Companions. Not a terrible idea, as long as they add more Sidekicks in the future, but then you are right back at the point they're trying to avoid, which is having to have more insanely deep story characters. The goal, IMO, is more options in party creation and design.
     
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