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KickStarter Prodeus - retro FPS by ex-Raven devs

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Oct 15, 2018.

  1. Dayyālu Arcane

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    Brutal Doom is still relevant as fuck, it seems.

    Srs, there's very little of old school Doom in those videos, but that's not a terrible sign in any case. I'd love a less messy UI and a higher enemy density. Let's see how it works, can't be worse than Project Warlock.
     
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  2. Multidirectional Arcane

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    Dusk is actually fun to play, this one looks like crap.
     
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  3. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    I shit on Dusk's visuals until i learned the game was made by one guy (i thought they made them shit on purpose for the hipster factor, turns out that's the best the guy could do lel).

    Gameplay wise Dusk seems to shit on most of those "retro" shooters, at least the ones i tried.
     
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  4. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Being made by one guys makes it an impressive achievement, but it doesn't make it look better to me. It's about design anyway, not the tech.
     
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  5. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  6. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    Well, like i said, the gameplay is good, and so was level design for the most part (some levels were shit, but hey). Guy is shit at art, should have probably got somebody else to help him, but hey, at least it wasn't shit on purpose.
     
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  7. Falksi Arcane

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    Sounds like a pissed up version of Parodius

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  8. Licorice Prophet Vatnik

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    lmao there's nothing retro about the graphics.

    They just did modern graphics but rendered it to a texture 1/16th the screen size upscaled using nearest neighbor filtering.

    I guess this affords them some shortcuts with regards to texturing and modelling vis a vis a modern game.

    Anyway bring back dark forces 2!
     
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  9. Max Heap Arbiter

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    Everytime I see these new retro FPS games I wonder....

    Why not just play Quake?

    There is like a billion great map packs out there. The quake community has grown and matured over 25 years now.
    I mean Dusk & Family are nice and everything, but playing these games kinda feels like talking to the monkey instead of the organ grinder. At least as long as they try to emulate the exact same gameplay. If you subtract Quake from Dusk you aren't really left with much except for dodgy air controls.

    It's fine and fun and everyting, but still...

    As for this: Kinda feels like a commercialized (and tamed) version of Brutal Doom. Down to the reloading speed.
    Again, that can be fun, but, you know...

    Show Spoiler


    I mean I can still enjoy it, but it won't be long until my appetite for Quake clones will be satiated.
    Just sayin.
     
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  10. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    i never liked quake [​IMG]
     
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  11. Bad Sector Arbiter Patron

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    Quake is my favorite game of all time (yes, this is RPG Codex, i just happen to also like RPGs and if there was an FPS Codex i'd be there too :-P), sometimes i play a quick SP round until first death in the morning while drinking coffee to wake up, but at some point i just want to play something different yet similar - i want to shoot other monsters, with different weapons that produce different sounds in maps with different themes while listening to different music. I do not want it *too* different though, i love the overall action+exploration driven gameplay that many 90s FPSs had and Quake's more gritty visual design (which wasn't too uncommon around the late 90s anyway).

    Q1SP map packs are good (though there is a tendency towards huge maps which i'm not a fan of, i prefer smaller maps similar to those in the original campaign and i'd rather have 10 smaller maps than 4 huge ones) and Quake's more abstract visual design allows for a larger variety of map themes than what you'd find in other contemporary games - but the vast vast majority of Quake SP mods are just maps. There are very few total or even partial conversions for Quake (and i think i've played all of them... or at least most of those i could find online).

    So to me at least those games aren't a replacement for Quake but something that feels like what i already know i like yet it isn't more of the same thing (though that might be because i've played Quake for so long that even a small difference feels big and others may not even notice it and think these games are the same - i mean, there are even people out there who consider Painkiller a spiritual successor to Quake!).

    Having said that, so far i'm not feeling that with Prodeus, it looks too shiny and i'm not sold on the normal mapped sprites (FWIW while i also consider Doom one of my favorite games i was never *too* much into the sprite-based FPS games - i pretty much prefer low poly models :-P).
     
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  12. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Imagine not understanding wanting to play different games over the course of decades.
     
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  13. Deadman Arcane Patron

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    Zoomer Quake.
     
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  14. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  15. HoboForEternity sunset tequila Patron

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    damn the graphix looks amazing.
     
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  16. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    Was that the game that felt like Doom 2016 with DOS graphics?

    Seems better than i remember. Graphics were always nice, just the gameplay felt kinda shit, but it seems better in that video.
     
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  17. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Prodeus look like Doom 2016 covered with pixelated vomit. Frankly, I'm starting to get tired of this retro-FPS mania.
     
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  18. Multidirectional Arcane

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    Yeah let's add fancy lighting and shader effects but make everything pixelated because muh retro. And UI looks awful too, it's like one of those retarded Doom visor mods that nearly every Doomtuber seems to be using. I guess I'll still give it a go and see if it feels any fun to play because this still looks preferable to AAA cinematic shooters.
     
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  19. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    I'm guessing the "ex-Raven" devs are not the old school devs.

    Why can't we have nice things? It's always something.
     
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  20. Sukhāvatī a.k.a. Mañjuśṛī Patron

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    Kickstarter update vid.

     
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  21. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Wolfenstein and Singularity are two of the better shooters from that shite Xbox 360 era. Low bar, but hey...
     
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  22. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Also guns


     
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  23. geno Learned

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    I ignored this game until I discovered the guy who made the Eviternity megawad is in the devteam. Now i wish the setting and the weapons and enemies weren't so uninspired.
     
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