Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

People generally dislike upfront costs. A $1,000 gaming PC looks a lot higher than a $400 PS4 on day one, even if that $400 PS4 ends up costing you $1,000 by the end of its lifespan due to subscription costs, higher game prices and peripherals.

 

What about 600$ gaming pc then?What is the rational for that?

 

Just look up recent PS4 footage. It looks better than your alpha-version screens you provided.

I know people always feel inclined spreading disinformation for ad hominem's sake. But you gotta stop with that nonsense.

 

Eh... that PC might not beat the PS4 considering the dedicated hardware edge. Also $200 is $200 to some people. Also some people are traditionally console gamers and don't want to change.

 

If you really think they could have clocked the Jaguar at 2.8 Ghz with "minimal additional BOM", you're fucking insane. In fact, if you believe that anyone ever actually doing this in a real product is a good idea, you don't understand how hardware works.

 

Uh huh. MS overclocked the XBO CPU an additional 150Mhz after they locked down the hardware & testing. Jaguar's working point is somewhere between 2,0 - 2,6 Ghz. They underclocked the damn thing to save BOM costs (PSU, heatsink, etc.) and keep the casing small. A major overclock could have been cheaper than adding a larger die space/more shader units like you proposed, if they wanted to.

What exactly is it now that doesn't get through your skull?

 

It does beat it.

I don't buy that,it will be funny to see how many who bought new consoles got all 3 of them or both(without WU).Also games cost more and pirating is harder/more risky.If cost is your concern you must be pretty retarded to go for console over computer.That's why here in eastern europe people go for pc every time and consoles are luxury item.

HDMI cable and controller with big picture and you got that console gaming.

My point is if these are people's reasons to have only console ,they are retarded.

 

Depends, man. I could probably do a $600 upgrade and be way ahead, but someone starting from scratch would need a case, power supply, Windows license, gaming mouse, etc. $600 is a pretty tight budget.

 

Demon's Souls II PS4 exclusive is what can make a hardened PC gamer very emotional though.

 

600$ are still enough and it beats it.Even with moronic examples like gaming mouse,which are cheap as fuck.

 

You can definitely do it for ~700

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I don't see Windows, cases or peripherals in there.

Anyway I couldn't give a fuck less about this argument so whatever. PC gaming is super cheap! Man those console guys are so retarded! Etc. etc.

 

Far right column is a case. Somewhere between the 598 and 677 points + $100 Windows license is about 700 like I said.

I hope we're not quibbling over $10 keyboards and mice which almost everyone has anyways.

 

C'mon Morgoth, you can do better than outright lies. That post about PS4's ACE units was pretty decent, but now you're just phoning it in.

 

I was gaming at 1600p and over 30fps 6 years ago. That is with mid-low end desktop from that time.

These AAA studios should commit collective suicide for not meeting at least 1080p on consoles that are better than my shit computer.

 

When I saw "Jaguar cores", this is the first thing that came to mind:

 

AND we can only hope that next-gen share the same fate as that Piece Of Shit system and ITZ comes to the game industry.

 

Most of us can do a 600$ upgrade. But that doesn't mean everyone else can do it. Most people just run into a shop and come home with a laptop that's slower than my current (6 year old) PC, and runs on Windows 8 Home. Everyone wants laptops these days. They don't get the whole point of having a real PC, cooling, speed, ease of maintenance, and the option to swap parts.

 

Windows
case: I already have one
peripherals: I have everything

All that's needed is mainboard, CPU, RAM, and video card.

 

I bought a gaming Laptop once.

Never again.

 

Gaming laptops are and always will be a waste of money. You can build a proper PC for half the price (or less) and you don't have the added problem of slowly wearing out your hardware due to inadequate cooling. Plus like Burning Bridges mentioned you can't upgrade or even replace failed components in some cases. And laptop manufacturers use shit parts to save money so they're more likely to fail over time.

 

If you're so inclined on getting a legit Windows license you get get one off of Reddit's r/softwareswap for $20.

 

don't buy microsoft
i never did
and work with their shoddy products every day

#MLGhaikumasterseries2014

 

Funny thing is Microsoft could go on to make up ground and win the console war this go-around, but unless the Xbox is the all in one living room media box of the future they still lose. That was their goal from day one, and how the justified the investment and shrugging off PC gaming.