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Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Dexter, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    I agree with that. The thing is Microsoft have shown they give fuck all about anything outside of the US and UK, honestly.
     
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  2. circ Arcane

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    Microsoft says xbox will only have DRM if the publishers want it!

    Watch every single game utilize new 'optional DRM' because they're too lazy and want to stop handing shitloads of money to Sony, and it worked for Blizzard! Massive ad-campaign about the dangers of piracy before launch. Do you support human-trafficking? Then why are you complaining? Shills on every forum. Always-on helps prevent child pornography!
     
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  3. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    Yeah, especially after the EPIC failure the Xbox was on Japan, I can see they focusing on their "home market".

    The ironic thing is that the Xbawks outsold the PS3 in thirdworld countries precisely due to piracy, since it tooks years to crack the PS3...
     
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  4. deuxhero Arcane

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    It's a combination of our internet infostructure being old as fuck (it's the case for a lot of stuff here because we didn't get the shit bombed out of us in WW2 and were early adopters on a lot of stuff) and government encouraged monopolies.
     
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  5. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    More Microsoft lulz: https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/330328052053733376

    Let's do the math here:

    Xbox 720 Subsidized: $299 + $15 * 24 = $659
    Xbox 720 Unsubsidized: $499 + $60 * 2 = $620 (provided they're not gonna increase the annual Gold membership from $60)

    That, combined with $100 games, I think you can ascertain where this is going...

    :M
     
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  6. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    That whole subscription crap needs to go.
     
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  7. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    The sad thing here is this: Microsoft can say "New XBOX for only $299!" and getting away with it. Because the sheep won't read the small print.
     
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  8. Gurkog Erudite

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    idiots in the US can not understand interest and how buying something cheap now, but paying later, ends up costing them a shit ton more in the long run. That is how rent-to-own business keep in business, by charging the idiots 2-3x the cost of stuff over time. Leasing shit is just as bad, because you pay the same as buying something, but gain no ownership of the shit.
     
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  9. circ Arcane

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    Is the subscription mandatory? I'd like to think no, but you never know these days. What does paying more than basic internet per month get you anyway?
     
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  10. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    It's not mandatory, if you don't mind paying $500 for the whole thing.
     
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  11. Horus Arcane

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    I can understand buying ps3 for it's exclusive games but why buy xbox when all the their games comes on to the pc too?
     
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  12. deuxhero Arcane

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    Because all my friends have it!

    That and the group Sony hired for marketing for most of the PS3's life was inept (thankfully a bit after VITA hit they were fired). I mean REALLY inept: Not just constantly trying to advertise a system most owners (both pirates and non-pirates) got for unique Japanese games by using every ghetto sterotype in the book to seem cool (yes, they actually did that for YEARS, they even made a mascot of it called "Marcus") but shit like THIS,

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Microsoft figured out that phones sold so well to idiots in the US that way. But Microsoft was so late to the phone thing that they can't get shit done, so instead they want to be the first to fuck over the consoletards with the same method.
     
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  14. Horus Arcane

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    I still shudder when i remember that infamous commercial with creepy baby doll.
    Any marketing departmant doing that should be forced to commit seppuku.
     
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  15. Tehdagah Arcane

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    It's a shame that the major selling point of the Xbox brand is online gaming.
     
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  16. Brinko Cipher

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    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/microsoft-next-xbox-will-work-even-when-your-internet-doesnt/
    Jesus the damage control is fucking magnificent. NO GUYZ THE NEW XBOX ISN'T ONLINE ONLY PLEASE BUY OUR SHIT.
     
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  17. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    This is the fakest "news leak" I've ever seen. FFS Microsoft, just make a press-release, no need to embrass us with this joke...
     
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  18. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Here's the Twist: Nextbox will not have any singleplayer games. Easiest way to circumvent the offline (=piracy) option.

    Microsoft. -We keep you safe from pirates.
     
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  19. Black Arcane

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    E3 soon, everybody will have their chance at embarrassing themselves there.
     
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  20. lophiaspis Arbiter

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    Wonder if NeoGAF made them change their mind? One more reason to detest that site then. I wanted to see MS crash and burn :(
     
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  21. msxyz Savant

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    "Should just work" and "tolerant of today's internet" is a curious choice of words and not an unequivocal repudiation of an online requirement.

    It sounds like retarded damage control...
     
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  22. Xi Arcane

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    Read more: http://www.minyanville.com/trading-...ing-AMD2527s/4/29/2013/id/49519#ixzz2SqJgCVAD

    Basically, the Ps4 has something that will perform onpar with an i3. Pretty impressive really. Better than most people were thinking. And, it takes almost no power to do it.

    http://www.redgamingtech.com/amd-jaguar-ps4s-cpu-vs-pc-desktop/

    Lots of benchmarks, note the Jaguar - also note that the PS4 is custom.

    http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=159069
     
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  23. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Hahaha what the fuck do people actually need to be told this? I mean the GPUs in current consoles probably run circles around Intel's shitty integrated gpu.

    Fake edit: those benchmarks seems suspicious. The i3 is listed as i686 while the Jaguar is listed as x86_64, does that mean they were running the i3 in 32 bit mode? It's also some bullshit synthetic benchmark instead of a real world application.
     
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  24. Xi Arcane

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    I agree, but it's the first bench out there.

    http://citavia.blog.de/2013/04/17/2-ghz-amd-jaguar-benchmarks-15761535/

    Also:

    https://www.osadl.org/Profile-of-system-in-rack-9-slot-1.qa-profile-r9s1.0.html
     
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  25. Cowboy Moment Arcane

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    So, the Jaguar, fully utilizing all four cores, fares slightly worse than a low-end i3 from two years ago? Sounds about right. Frankly, it sounds like a great chip for netbooks and low-end laptops with its low power consumption and good performance for the price, and having four relatively weak cores would do well for general purpose desktop computing, where you're quite likely to have a lot of stuff running simultaneously. But for gaming? The PS4 is supposed to have an 8-core version clocked at 1600 MHz, right? Fat chance games will make use of more than two.
     
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