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Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Dexter, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Xi Arcane

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    7770 = 1.28 TFLOPS Single Precision compute power (GPU clocked at 1 Ghz unlike XBone - 800 Mhz), and this device uses GDDR5, unlike the Xbone.

    7850 = 1.76 TFLOPS Single Precision compute power (GPU clocked at 860Mhz - PS4 800Mhz) 7850 has 16 CUs, PS4 has 18CUs. Both use GDDR 5.

    The comparison is really, quite good. In fact, the console derivatives are probably faster than stock versions of these cards for a few reasons. hUMA implementation and platform optimization to name a few. Of course, ANY PC discrete GPU higher than these is more powerful. A GTX Titan would floor these cards without optimizations. This time next year, there will no longer be a real comparison.

    I bet that PCs actually perform even better this go around due to similar architectures. So, unlike this generation, PCs get redundant optimizations without any real development time.
     
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    The punishment is baffling. The school is made to pay $160k... which comes from taxes... and was intended for education...

    Why do kwan judges do this? Same thing when a cop kills someone, the family just gets some money. From taxes.

    Shouldn't people be going to prison??
     
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    The comparison is bad because 7770 and 7850 are different tiers. You can compare 7750 with 7770 or 7850 with 7870 if you want to see what 30-40% extra TFLOPS, more cores and higher clocks mean in terms of performance.

    You can't just go willy-nilly and compare across tiers, an entry-level with a mid-range card. 7770 can't even beat a 5850 which kinda showcases how architecture is trumped by raw power.
     
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  8. Xi Arcane

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    There's no other way to compare right now. Those two cards are the closest we've got by comparison. It's to give a sense of what to expect performance wise between the two. Those benchmarks do a good job of showing what to expect when comparing exclusives. However, both next gen consoles sport a card that is slightly faster than both of those, so expect slightly higher frame rates than are shown.

    Also, those were actual gaming benchmarks, there's no better comparison really.
     
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    Everybody gets it that everybody is a "closet consoletard", except you. Hurr durr. Skyway 2.0.
     
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    It's a civil suit.

    Besides, that 160k would have gone to the very administration and union bloated education system
     
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  11. abija Prophet

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    You can compare in same tier, as I said, 7750 vs 7770 and 7850 vs 7870. 7770 vs 7850 is like comparing a mobile with a desktop processor just because they are same series...

    Why, because it says x TFLOPS and y cores? Looking at the jaguar APU results I'd expect something along 8800M performance (PS4 probably halfway between 8800M and 8900M).
     
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  12. grdja Scholar

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    Considering that until 7790 7770 was best of entry level, and 7850 has become cheapest thing at the bottom of mid range, comparing them actually makes sense. You know very well what's better, you just need to see how much exactly you get by making that step in price.
     
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    Read a bit, he said xbone gpu ~ 7770 and ps4 gpu ~ 7850 and concluded ps4 is about 2x more powerful.
     
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    A HD 7770 should still perform ~2x as fast in an enclosed environment with tons of optimizations and no Windows Kernel inbetween app and hardware.

    Results should be good, compared to current-gen consoles.

    If they can run GTA V or Skyrim on a 360/PS3, I don't wanna know what they'll be able to achieve with the nextgen console hardware. Should be good for PC gamers too.
     
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    :lol: Those "Gaben E3 Conferences" jokes will never get old.
     
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    But it's true, if someone wants to break into the market, the time is now.
     
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  18. grdja Scholar

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    I highly doubt that. First idea that Windows is such piece of shit it strangles components to run at half the potential power is laughable. Successful corporations that endure decades simply don't get to that comic book level of incompetence. Further, even on Xbone it will again run on a Windows derivative OS, and no matter how barebone, from what we know it will be running in parallel with 2 other OSes.
     
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  19. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Xbone games will run on it's own (small) OS, not on Windows Kernel.

    Also, the 2x faster than PC card figure is from John Carmack. He should know better than anyone else.
     
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  20. grdja Scholar

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    And Microsoft will develop a brand new kernel completely unrelated to only thing they've been doing decently for last 20 years? PS. Carmack lost his marbles long time ago.
     
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  22. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Windows for stuffy, Xbox OS for games, Supervisor OS for control between the two.

    Also, Carmack > Newfag grdja
     
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    http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-investing-1-billion-into-xbox-one-games-6408992?sid=6408992
    God they are still hoping for that 1 billion sales number. Someone must have dumped a fuck ton of varnish in the ventilation system.
     
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    Oh come on. Carmack is clearly but a shadow of his former self nowadays.
     
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    You're right. Still, Carmack > Oldfag evdk.
     
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