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KickStarter Queen's Wish: The Conqueror - the Jeff Vogel Kickstarter - coming September

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by oasis789, May 23, 2018.

  1. ColCol Arcane

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    So a Geneforge remake or spiritual successor?
     
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  2. Elwro Arcane Patron

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    where is it
     
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  3. mondblut Arcane

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    FTFY
     
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  4. mondblut Arcane

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    Does he truly need a kickstarter to port Exile for x64 compatibility?
     
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  5. Morkar illiterate

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    My bet is on a Mass Effect clone with an improved Avadon engine...
     
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  6. Elwro Arcane Patron

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    I'd play that non-stop
     
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  7. mondblut Arcane

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    Porting Exile would ensure better-looking graphics and AOE spells right away.

    But he is probably going to remake Avernum once again.
     
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  8. Glop_dweller Augur

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    What Bioware clones? Serious question; I've seen it mentioned a few times, but I have no idea what they could mean. When—or in what way, has he copied Bioware? (...presumably their mechanics?)
     
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  9. Elwro Arcane Patron

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    In Avadon 1 & 2 (haven't played the 3rd one) the party quests and dialogues seemed vaguely reminiscent of Bioware. There was nothing like that in the previous games (which were a lot better imo)
     
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  10. Glop_dweller Augur

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    Ah... So it's a dialog thing. I am going to guess this means multiple responses that all lead to the same outcome.
     
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  11. Elwro Arcane Patron

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    Pretty sure that was the case. But the Bioware thing may have come from the fact that Vogel also tried to connect the player to the characters emotionally. I don't remember the details, frankly -- I found the Geneforges and Avernums to be a lot more memorable (if repetitive).
     
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  12. tindrli Arcane

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    The last remake of Avernum! until another remake
     
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  13. IncendiaryDevice Self-Ejected Village Idiot

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    Re: Avadon: Instead of a team of characters you make yourself that just blob around with you, never saying anything, you now start as just one character you build yourself and then meet 'companions' who are predefined personalities (which you can still use and level as you wish), but they all have companion missions and specifically irritating personalities. At the end of the game some might leave you rather than fight the end boss. [If you choose to even fight the end boss].

    The game has a hub rather than a continuous open world where you always return to, in order to catch up with companions and various NPC stories and then proceed to the next mission. The narrative is always based around the desires of the hub.
     
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  14. Juan_Carlo Arcane

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    The Avadons were inspired by Bioware in that they are very focused on recruitable NPCs that you build relationships with, complete individual quests for, and the area maps are very linear and hub focused, much like a bioware game.

    Other than that, though, the combat is still turn based and it's still very much a spiderweb game. So I think people shitting all over the games is overdone. There is more C&C in the Avadons than there ever was in the Avernums, but people don't shit on the Avernums anywhere near as much.
     
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  15. The Brazilian Slaughter Arcane

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    Who cares about new game? Jeff, you just need to say the two magic words:

    GENEFORGE REMAKE


    and he would have the cash.
     
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  16. Juan_Carlo Arcane

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    I'd only give him money for a Geneforge remake if he agrees that "Geneforge" is a 3 syllable word, pronounced "Gen -i- forge" Like you pronounce the word "Genesis." Vogel pronounces it "Jean - Forge" and it's fucking retarded. Way too literal and on the nose.
     
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  17. ortucis Prophet

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    I honestly don't care about his games, but have been following his blog for a long time and he seems to be pretty open and honest about the quality and limits of his games (like using same pre-rendered sprites from Poser). Sure he might have "streamlined" his games, but to reach bigger audience, every developer must make changes. Same few hundred fans are nice and all, but a few thousand more are better over time.
     
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  18. Mustawd Arcane

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    3 syllables doesn't make grammatical sense. "Gene" and "forge" refers to the creating of creatures. Stop pretending to be dumb. It's JeanForge. Deal with it.
     
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  19. zwanzig_zwoelf Graverobber Foundation Developer

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    Maybe I should talk to him and offer my services for a reasonable amount of $$$ if I'll have too much free time after Das Geisterschiff.
     
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  20. Juan_Carlo Arcane

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    Do you pronounce Genesis as "Jean - sis"? The way the word is written, it's actually more natural to pronounce it as 3 syllables because all words that have the "gene" prefix are pronounced as such (genetic, genesis, generate, etc, etc). It would only be pronounced the way that Vogel pronounces it if it was written as "Gene-forge."

    I took an informal poll on Spiderweb forums once and 1/2 people assumed it was pronounced "gen - i - forge" and the other half assumed it was pronounced "Jean - forge," so I'm not the only one.
     
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  21. Mustawd Arcane

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    Geneforge is a made up name by Vogel. You're ignoring context. Stop being dumb.

    Also, please stop pretending English has internal consistency.


    A group of ppl from Poland: Polish
    A group of ppl from China: Chinese
    A group of ppl from India: Indians
    A group of ppl from France: Retards.

    Where's ur consistency god now?

    It's Jeanforge. Deal with it.
     
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  22. Mustawd Arcane

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    Vogel: Wait...say that again.
    ZZ: The whole thing. Environmnt, PCs, NPCs, UI, text box. All orange.
    Vogel: All of it?
    ZZ: All of it.
    Vogel: Super orange?
    ZZ: Fuck yes.
     
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  23. zwanzig_zwoelf Graverobber Foundation Developer

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    I was talking about the music, since artwork and graphic design are my weakest skills.
     
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  24. Mustawd Arcane

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    And I was fucking with you cuz ur a bro. Lord you Germans kill every joke. NO FUN ALLOWED. Except for in concentration camps.
     
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  25. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Wait, fun is allowed in concentration camps? I thought it was a meditation camp to develop, y'know, concentration.
     
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