KickStarter Queen's Wish: The Conqueror - the Jeff Vogel Kickstarter

[HoboForEternity]

Please dont be a dumpster pls dont be a dumpster

 

[fantadomat]

Took another look at the pitch and it bears repeating how utterly lazy and uninformative it is.

Usually, KS pitches come with a nice little section called "Features" where the devs list the planned features of the game in an easy to read bullet point format.

There's nothing like this there. Just two paragraphs of text that say "you build forts" and "you explore the world".

This disregards every single piece of common knowledge about how to pitch a game, or, heck, how to pitch any product at all.

I've read car insurance advertisements that had more enthusiasm in them than this.

It is a pitch for its fans not for the popamole crowd. People that care about rpgs know what is this about. Still i do agree that the pitch is not very good,still i don't really care. Will buy the game because Vogel may be a cuck but he hasn't delivered bad game. It is annoying when the codex wants for rpgs to go back to that golden decade,yet they whine that Vogel doesn't innovate and it is not popamole enough. I would ratter have 10 of Vogel's games than to replay that incompetent broken game called deadfire.

 

[HoboForEternity]

The worst game he delivered was avadons,which are mediocre at worst.

 

[fantadomat]

The worst game he delivered was avadons,which are mediocre at worst.

Yeah,it was pretty mediocre series,still i didn't felt cheated for buying them. Also they had better writing than his other game.....in sense that it was more personalised.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

$50K Level - iPhone Port!

 

[JarlFrank]

It is a pitch for its fans not for the popamole crowd. People that care about rpgs know what is this about. Still i do agree that the pitch is not very good,still i don't really care. Will buy the game because Vogel may be a cuck but he hasn't delivered bad game. It is annoying when the codex wants for rpgs to go back to that golden decade,yet they whine that Vogel doesn't innovate and it is not popamole enough. I would ratter have 10 of Vogel's games than to replay that incompetent broken game called deadfire.

No what I'm complaining about, and rightfully so, is that Vogel's business sense seems to be even worse than Pierre Begue's and that's saying much.

 

[dragonul09]

The way he said living legend, the face he made when he said it, so fucking delusional

 

[Werdna's Revenge]

I'm tempted to back this just because I like his other games, but the pitch is awful and might just kill any chance this ever has of getting funded.

 

[Hobo Elf]

This KS is so bad on so many planes of existence.

The biggest blunder, however, seems to be that he's appealing to his fans first and foremost as only people familiar with his games could begin to guess at the kind of game he's working on. So what's the point of going on KS to get extra funding to get new art assets if it's only the fans paying him who were going to buy the game anyway? He's going to be making a negative profit with fans "preordering" the game and then not buying it on release day. Where's the business acumen??
Also, the game footage is really underwhelming. I was expecting something more when Vogel announced that he was making a new engine, but it looks like exactly the same shit as before with a different angle.

Lastly, is it just me, or is this somehow vaguely inspired by Tyranny? You're some guy sent to fix the untamed barbarian lands of your empire. I've not played Tyranny but this is the impression I'm getting from this game. Someone let me know if I'm crazy or not.

 

[Infinitron]

To me this feels like he wants to make an Avernum/Avadon hybrid.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

 

[JarlFrank]

Lastly, is it just me, or is this somehow vaguely inspired by Tyranny? You're some guy sent to fix the untamed barbarian lands of your empire. I've not played Tyranny but this is the impression I'm getting from this game. Someone let me know if I'm crazy or not.

First he cloned Bioware, now he clones Obsidian. Innovation!

 

[Elwro]

So what's the point of going on KS to get extra funding to get new art assets if it's only the fans paying him who were going to buy the game anyway? He's going to be making a negative profit with fans "preordering" the game and then not buying it on release day. Where's the business acumen??

That's why I think his family is in debt and he needs money now.

 

[Infinitron]

So what's the point of going on KS to get extra funding to get new art assets if it's only the fans paying him who were going to buy the game anyway? He's going to be making a negative profit with fans "preordering" the game and then not buying it on release day. Where's the business acumen??

That's why I think his family is in debt and he needs money now.

Worth pointing out that he planned to do this year and a half in advance: http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10433

 

[HoboForEternity]

The worst game he delivered was avadons,which are mediocre at worst.

Yeah,it was pretty mediocre series,still i didn't felt cheated for buying them. Also they had better writing than his other game.....in sense that it was more personalised.

best thing about avadon is at least it has some of the most creative boss fights, and avadon 1 redbeard fight was kinda cool, although tedious at the same time

 

[fantadomat]

It is a pitch for its fans not for the popamole crowd. People that care about rpgs know what is this about. Still i do agree that the pitch is not very good,still i don't really care. Will buy the game because Vogel may be a cuck but he hasn't delivered bad game. It is annoying when the codex wants for rpgs to go back to that golden decade,yet they whine that Vogel doesn't innovate and it is not popamole enough. I would ratter have 10 of Vogel's games than to replay that incompetent broken game called deadfire.

No what I'm complaining about, and rightfully so, is that Vogel's business sense seems to be even worse than Pierre Begue's and that's saying much.

Yeah, i know and agree with you mate. I just worded my self poorly,i was just bitching in general about the people that bitch about Vogel and want the game to fail. I wasn't saying that you are the one,it just came off in the wrong way,ahhh 5 hours of sleep could do that to people.

PS:Still think that you are the best mod around here,after all you are the only one that post and shows some care about rpgs.

 

[JarlFrank]

So what's the point of going on KS to get extra funding to get new art assets if it's only the fans paying him who were going to buy the game anyway? He's going to be making a negative profit with fans "preordering" the game and then not buying it on release day. Where's the business acumen??

That's why I think his family is in debt and he needs money now.

Worth pointing out that he planned to do this year and a half in advance: http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10433

Why the fuck hasn't he advertised this more if he has been planning it for a year ffs

This thing looks like something made up in 5 minutes with not a second of effort put into it.
Heck, I've seen Kickstarters that were probably made up in 5 minutes just to cash in, and even they had more detailed KS pages than this 6 paragraphs of barely informative text.

 

[Scroo]

Ok wow the ks pitch is absolutely awful, did no one tell him how to market stuff and attract people to his game?! ugh. I guess I'll back it bc I like Vogel's games but I fear this will barely reach it's goal if at all. Meh.

 

[Reinhardt]

So it's battle royale between queen's heirs?

 

[Elwro]

So what's the point of going on KS to get extra funding to get new art assets if it's only the fans paying him who were going to buy the game anyway? He's going to be making a negative profit with fans "preordering" the game and then not buying it on release day. Where's the business acumen??

That's why I think his family is in debt and he needs money now.

Worth pointing out that he planned to do this year and a half in advance: http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10433

OK, great!

 

[V_K]

Why the fuck hasn't he advertised this more if he has been planning it for a year ffs

Have you seen the footage in the video? If I were him, I'd try to hide it as thoroughly as possible too

 

[fantadomat]

The worst game he delivered was avadons,which are mediocre at worst.

Yeah,it was pretty mediocre series,still i didn't felt cheated for buying them. Also they had better writing than his other game.....in sense that it was more personalised.

best thing about avadon is at least it has some of the most creative boss fights, and avadon 1 redbeard fight was kinda cool, although tedious at the same time

When it comes down to level design and battles Vogel is really good. In each of his games there is something new and interesting.

 

[fantadomat]

So it's battle royale between queen's heirs?

Shhhh,don't say that! The koreans will read it and will sue him!

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Ok wow the ks pitch is absolutely awful, did no one tell him how to market stuff and attract people to his game?! ugh. I guess I'll back it bc I like Vogel's games but I fear this will barely reach it's goal if at all. Meh.

he's gone from 2k to over 6k in the last couple of hours alone and he only needs 30. I think he'll do just fine. Vogel is the master of getting the most money out of the least work imaginable.

 

[JarlFrank]

But with only a little more work he could make lots of more money.