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KickStarter Realms Beyond: Ashes of the Fallen - Chaos Chronicles reborn!

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Infinitron, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    He contributed some parts of the background story / world.
     
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  2. Ezeekiel Arbiter

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    So, sort of like JarlFrank?

    What is it with that studio and political extremists, I better avoid giving them money lest I end up funding some unholy combination of globalism and nazism, right? ;)
     
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  3. Ezeekiel Arbiter

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    On a more serious note, I'm not sold on the combat yet... Definitely waiting before a buy.
     
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  4. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    Ohhhhhh so edgy, now they're very scared by the possibility of being ruined by angry g4m3rs like you.

    Nobody gives a fuck about this "controversy", you're just the other side of the coin of all the SJWs that said the same thing in regards to firing sssr from obsidian. "I so want to enjoy Pillars, but I won't buy it with sser on staff. Obsidian fix it pls".

    The sales will not be affected even by 1%. You're the laughing stock of the internet with your butthurt posts, stop imitating the sjw, it won't work.
     
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  5. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    It's really amazing how you can lack self-awareness to such a degree that you laugh at SJW for not buying a game because a certain person worked on it while you're doing the exact same thing.

    Also, if you have such big principles, stop buying AAA games before going all fucking saint. When you stop pre-ordering EA, Ubisoft and Bethesda garbage then you can brag about how awesome you are.
     
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  6. Ezeekiel Arbiter

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    You missed the smiley, ey?

    I also like the logic on display... One side can do x but the other side is not allowed to do the same in return? Alright then.
     
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  7. Ezeekiel Arbiter

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    I don't laugh at SJW's for not buying a game for whatever reason (edit: well, maybe sometimes). My problems lie with trying to get people fired over nothing (not exactly the case in this instance, of course) or trying to turn an established series into political garbage with shit gameplay or some such.
    Extremely rare for me to preorder anything, and almost never AAA games.
    Who are you even talking to?
     
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  8. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Maybe both 'sides' can stop being retarded?
     
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  9. Ezeekiel Arbiter

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    I think everybody can just decide for themselves whether they want to buy a game or not, for whatever reasons they happen to take into consideration.
    Rules for thee but not for me, on the other hand...
     
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  10. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
     
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  11. ArchAngel Arcane

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    I have even stopped pirating games from those studios, how awesome am I?
     
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  12. BEvers I'm forever blowing

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    Finally! https://www.rpgwatch.com/articles/realms-beyond-preview-455.html

    New info for me:

    Adding to the believable world they are trying to create, is the day/night cycle and that the NPCs have schedules. When you enter a city at night, people will be in their homes and their shops are closed. Unfortunately this is not implemented yet, so it could not be shown, but it is something that will be implemented in a later version.

    With all the stuff lying around you might think about stealing it, but if someone notices you doing that you might get into trouble. First you get into trouble with only the NPC. When words get around you could get into trouble with the other people in the village and after that perhaps in the kingdom and even in the whole game world. If you are not noticed, but word does get around that there is a thief, the town guards might want to see your equipment to search for stolen goods. Any stolen items you might have are tagged as stolen and those tags can only be removed by finding a merchant who is willing to deal in stolen goods.

    Each hex on the map is about 2 miles and the complete world is 2.000 square miles, which means there are a million hexes in total.

    Your party will not only need to rest, but needs to eat and drink as well. This is achieved by setting up a camp. If you have food like onions, potatoes and carrots in your inventory and have the tools needed for cooking, like a pan, someone in your party with a cooking skill can prepare a meal for the party. The ingredients of the meal are removed automatically from your inventory and the cooking is automated well, as long as everything is in place for this. The result of the cooking exercise is shown as text on the screen, like "Waldo created a delicious meal for the party" and a bonus is awarded to the party for having the meal. Obviously, in order to cook, you need wood for making a fire. Wood will be collected automatically when you are near a forest, but if you camp in a barren area, you should be prepared and carry a supply of wood with you in order to be able to cook.

    Actually, your actions, both inside and outside of quests, can have consequences in the world. If you would destroy a goblin camp somewhere and kill all the goblins, it might be that after some time, humans will claim that spot, because the goblins are no longer there. You can make entire regions safer for humans in this way, but you can also choose not to.

    Realms Beyond
    will support alignment, but their their implementation of alignment is different from the D&D version, as they wanted something more intricate. They plan to use a diagram where different character traits are available and each character will align more or less with each of these traits. Like, being greedy, lazy, sneaky, open-minded, etc. As it is still in development, this could not be shown.

    The game will support a faction system on different levels. One town is a faction, one kingdom is a faction and then there are global factions, such as a merchant gild, or factions based on a race or religion. You can align yourself with factions, but some factions are opposite to each other, so befriending one faction, could mean you become an enemy of another faction. You can for example, align with the orcs, but in order to do that you have to kill humans, who will not think kindly of you because of that. If you make a character angry, because of your actions or conversations, it will spread out to the faction that character belongs to, like the village or camp.

    The plan is to release the game at the end of 2019 or the beginning of 2020 and will be released in parts, meaning that only a part of the map will be available at that time. A total of 3 parts are planned. The second and third part will be much lower priced than the first part and will come in the form of expansions to that first part. They are doing this, because they will need the time to create the content for all the parts and in this way the game can already be made available for a large part. The mod tools will be released with the first part, so people can already start creating mods for the game.


     
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  13. Roqua Prospernaut Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual In My Safe Space

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    So, instead of having multiclassing they spend a huge effort making a bunch of dumb shit for no good reason other than people are fucking morons that like to pick forks up that do nothing and you can't sell. Well, at least they aren't copying U7's combat.

    I wonder how their alignment system works with classes. The armor thing has me worried too. More "innovation" they are borrowing from SCL? Personally, I'd rather have less "eye candy" items junking up the world and more 3.5, but like I said before - beggars can't be choosers so I have to fund it and hope it gets funded, but I'm going to whine about all the extremely poor design decisions they are making to make this a TB Skyrim instead of the next evolution of ToEE.
     
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  14. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    What's wrong with armour now?
     
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  15. Roqua Prospernaut Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual In My Safe Space

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    This was SCL's interpretation of armor in 3.5 too.
     
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  16. V_K Arcane

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    Either it's a typo or someone can't into math.
    So buying corpse-looted items is business as usual, but only crooks will buy stolen goods. The morality system in the game is indeed intricate.
     
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  17. Roqua Prospernaut Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual In My Safe Space

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    I'm guessing it is conversion confusion? I was thinking a hex is probably a meter, with the world being 2k square kilometers. But that isn't a million, even if converting 3.1 miles to kilometers I can't get it to work.
     
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  18. Reinhardt Arcane

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    [​IMG]
     
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  19. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    All was 5e though. While your concern, that this might be another SCL, is something, is there anything particularly wrong with the rule that worries you in terms of how it might affect the gameplay negatively?
     
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  20. Roqua Prospernaut Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual In My Safe Space

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    Yes. They seem to be seeing 3.5 like SCL saw 5e and Neverwinter Online saw 4e. If they changed AC, what other ways have they reimagined itemization? Gloves of added crit range x2? Vorpal Helm of Striding -10 to CDs?

    Let me ask you this - why does dramatic changes to 3.5 not worry you? Do you have a list of games that went wild with the source rules that are staples of your rpg library.
     
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  21. The Wall Erudite

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    How's that bad actually? If anything it's improvement in that regarad compared to DnD. Saying that SCL (which was shitparade) is in any way simiilar to RB because of it is not far from saying that RB will be shit cause just like in SCL it features the same number of categories in main menu or cause lead programers dated the girl with the same name. Also difference between SCL's and RB's implementation of armor will probably be the same liike between RB's modding tools and SCL 'DM mode'. Liverpool and Crvena Zvezda, day and night apart.
    Well you can't steal something which has no owner, anyway doesn't in every dude you kill last will in RPGs say: I leave all my earthly possessions and that whore of my wife to any strong enough motherfucker (in rest of will he'll be refered to as player character) who gets to kill me, either from first or seventeenth try. He can pick me clean until only my corpse in underwear is left. If he likes them and if they're his size, he can take them too. Their inventory size should be more then enough to fit any equipment he wants to store in them. I'd advise washing them first though...

    Morality in this game if anything will be traditionally RPG
     
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  22. ArchAngel Arcane

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    He probably meant 2000x2000 = 4 000 000 but since each hex is 2x2 that is 1 000 000 hexes.
     
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  23. BEvers I'm forever blowing

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    More from Gobblin:

     
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  24. The Wall Erudite

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    Chris Avellone, Guido Henkel, Julian Lefay, Michael Kirkbride, Tim Cain - each one an RPG giant, each one a stretch goal?!

    FINAL STRETCH GOAL: Alex Jones voices main villain and Info Wars reports about your party's adventures and changes/chaos you have plunged world into and all of that IN GAME??!
    :bounce::bounce::bounce:
     
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  25. BEvers I'm forever blowing

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    3000 backers means Kickstarter goal of 150000 or so?
     
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