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Replaying betrayal at krondor - dosbox rocks!

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by bryce777, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. bryce777 Erudite

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    I had some trouble at first because I was not CDing to the directory before running the game, but now I have adjusted the setting a bit too and it is JUST like I remember.

    In the config, set the resolution to 800x600. Crank the cycles to 9000 or so, and put the mouse sensitivity around 275.

    After that plays like a dream.

    Since I got screwed up at first, here are the exact steps in case someone else wants to do it.

    Download and run dosbox.

    type mount c c:\krondor

    this assumes you install krondor in c:\krondor

    then type C:\

    Then type krondor.exe

    I can't wait to play some of the games I missed, such as realms of arkania, or to replay bane of the cosmic forge (which i will probably have to rebuy or something).
     
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  3. Section8 Erudite

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    Great game, I've been replaying a bit of it in DosBox too. Love the live action characters too, like Owyn, the squire who appears to be a 40 year old guy wearing a goofy blonde wig.

    It's sad though, I still think the best part of it is the Moredhel puzzle locks, and most of my adventuring revolves around searching for them rather than following the plot like I should.
     
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  4. LlamaGod Cipher

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    I've been playing around in Ultima 7 lately and was thinking about Darklands but its character screen scared me.
     
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  5. bryce777 Erudite

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    Darklands is fantastic. I dont know how easy it would be to get it, though. I remember it coming on 10 floopies, and needing a patch.




    Section8 - I especially love pug's flabby mantits. I keep expecting Gorath's beard to fall off, too. Still, it is better than any assy game bethesda will ever make, no matter how much money they spend and even with actors like Patric Stewart.
     
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  6. Rat Keeng Liturgist

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    Dosbox is great. I replayed Lands of Lore not too long ago, love that game, it remains one of my favorite RPGs of all time. Plus, y'know, it's the cd-rom version, so it's voiced by Patrick Stewart :)

    I remember I replayed Krondor when sierra released it for free years ago.
     
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  7. Naked_Lunch Erudite

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    I think it would much less intimidating if they didn't use acrynonmns instead of the acutal word for skills and such.

    Betrayal at Krondor is very, very, very good. As someone on the forum once put it, it was like Morrowind but without all the morrowind crap in it. Though IIRC, it was quite linear and it had a hotlink kinda dialouge system. The writing was top-notch though, and the 2D graphics had a nice style to them.

    I recently got Betrayal in Antara and it's basically like Krondor, though not as good, but it'll run on XP with a mite bit of tweaking.
     
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  8. Human Shield Augur

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    I had to print out half the manual and keep it next to me to play the game. Everything from armor and weapon stats, skill names, and requirements for saints are only listed in the manual. Very annoying.
     
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  9. Sandelfron Scholar

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    I've got a boxed copy of "Battletech:The Crescent Hawk's Revenge".
    Unfortunately, the game is on 5 1/2" floppy disks. :cool:
     
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  10. Section8 Erudite

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    I even fired up "Return to Krondor" in a fit of retro fury. I now remember why I never played it much, even back in the day.
     
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  11. burrie Scholar

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    (new bloke and all that, heya, hai, let's keep this unpainful and let's carry on)

    Recently played Betrayal At Krondor after going through the first three Riftwar books, as well as the 'Honoured Enemy' book. I was really in the mood of the whole Midkemian world, and tried this game for real once. (tried it before when it was released for free, but me poor brain couldn't completely comprehend the game, the combat, this things called RPG, nor realise that one had to right-click rations before continuing)

    Overall, I have to say that I was one of the more addictive gaming experiences I had in a long time. Although I usually kinda dislike when the party characters are pre-created, it worked this time around. T'was rather neat to see Locklear and heer James 10 years after the whole Sethanon ordeal, and the new characters were a welcome addition. Patrus felt that he came a bit out of left field tho'. Storyline felt solid and I enjoyed how the storyline split up in the 'one group goes off to an incredibly different world, while another group does something more down-to-earth', which seems to be a staple of Feist storyline. I was really entertained with the combat engine. A nice turn-based combat system to round things off, with the right amount of combat. Neat puzzles, fun sidequests, definately a winner.

    Can't say much for Return to Krondor. Tried it recently, but had a tough time getting into it. Gotta try that one for another day.
     
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  12. Claw Erudite Patron

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    Heh, I've played Ultima IV for the first time with the help of DosBox. There's so many old games I want to play, I don't really see any reason to buy any new release. Except Gothic3, that is. And UT2007. But that's it. Probably.
     
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  13. Naked_Lunch Erudite

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    Hey, Claw, you know you can play Ultima IV without DosBox is you get the VGA upgrade, right? I think it's on Underdogs.
     
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  14. bryce777 Erudite

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    It is linear, plotwise, but there is lots of room for exploration and the stat development is well thought out and interesting. So is the combat. For instance, you could have SERIOUSLY different strategies based on what spells you liked, and what magic items you used, or melee versus ranged attacks. James with a poison rapier is lethal as hell, since he can move 5 squares and attack and poison anyone on the field at any time, whereas gorath with a decent weapon can chop a tree down, or is very accurate with ranged attacks.

    Most games have at best an illusion of nolinearity. One of the important things is to be able to explore and to not feel like you are on fucking rails. IWD2, you literally had an EXACT series of steps you took for most of the game. It was the stupidest thing imaginable.

    If you want to go through krondor via decamp on the teeth, you can, though likely this will get your ass kicked.

    I couldn't believe how bad return to krondor was, sadly.

    Lands of lore is another I want to play again.

    There really isn't anything worth a shit on the horizon. It is sad when games relased 15 years ago are much better than anything released post 2000
     
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  15. drexciya Augur

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    I think it was ahead of it's time. By now it's easier to implement better menus, in-game help, tooltips and the scroll mouse. The same goes for the game itself, it's on the cutting edge for that time and it shows.

    I've tried it when playing around with DOSBox but the interface and the difficulty were a bit too much for me. I would love to see an updated and enhanced (better interface and so on - now we have the CPU/GPU power to spare) version of it. It's got an original medieval thing about it, not the D&D thing which doesn't produce any worthwhile game lately so it seems.

    That said and seeing the rest of this thread; why isn't it possible to do remakes of some of these older titles? It shouldn't be that difficult to pick up the rights to these titles. In the consoleworld this doesn't seem to be much of a problem but in the PC world no one seems to think of it, odd.
     
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  16. Psilon Erudite

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    Everything MicroProse is now owned by Atari.

    Everything Interplay is now buried. We know this story.

    Everything Origin or Westwood is now owned by EA.

    Do you understand now, grasshopper?
     
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  17. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    In case you didn't know, you can play Ultima VII with Exult: http://exult.sourceforge.net/

    It adds alot more functionality than just using dosbox. Very Very cool.
     
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  18. Terwin Novice

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    I love Betrayal at Krondor. It's still the best RPG i have ever played. It's funny. I have never been more immersed in a game. Even with today's fancy graphics, the immersion factor never reached the lever of Betrayal. And the combat system has never been matched.
     
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