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Risen 3: Titan Lords

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by toro, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. Raapys Arcane

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    They're faggots.

    Boobs are boobs.
     
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  2. Alfons Prophet

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    Whoa there cowboy!Nice tits are nice tits regardless if they are made up of polygons,paint or actual breast tissue.
    About pity,most guys probably fantasized about something they can't have, be it because you can't fuck your monitor or because that girl is way out of your league.
     
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  3. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

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    So what difference does it make that she is your sister in polygonal world? Fap away. Sheesh.
     
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  4. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Damn it this is certainly disappointing, I was hoping for at least a Risen 1.
     
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  5. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

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    I still haven't finished Risen, but it's world and enemies are very boring so i don't think R3 can be any worse. Also i don't get the thing about R combat being any good. It's still mainly LB mashing with occasional situations, where blocking with shield is handy. I mostly release Fred to distract enemies and smash them from behind. Fred can take a lot of punishing before crumbling. Exploration is also only fun as far as seeing the all new vistas, because all the treasure chests have shit items in them. The best two handed sword is the one you make from obsidian yourself so i don't get the point of all these rune swords, berserkers and ones you reasemble from two broken parts as they are average. The only fun thing about Risen is dialoguing and quest solving before joining the fraction. Now at the stage were i need to get the titan armor and hesitating to continue. Seems like borefest from now on.
     
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  6. Avellion Erudite

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    So a game that was designed for the lowest common denominator is being outsold by a game whose design choices were rejected by most publishers, despite being newer. Glad to see this game not doing as well as more deserving titles.
     
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  7. Alfons Prophet

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    You are one sick fuck dude.
     
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  8. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

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  9. toro Arcane

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    They are still there. The problem is that the guys which made Gothic are gone.

    It seems that the game development cycle took a wrong turn at some point:
    - Sword crafting system is broken. Yes, you can gather metal resources but you cannot craft anything from them. However you can craft like 5 special swords / 5 pistols / 5 muskets in the entire game if you manage to gather the broken parts of them.
    - Lockpicking system is broken. You can buy hundreds of lockpicks but you'll only need one ... for the entire game. My only lockpick did not break. Ever. The same with the pickaxe.
    - Quests are broken. There are no longer interwined paths of the story or even quests which makes you unable to join some factions. Everything is Skyrim lite.
    - Story is completely broken. I cannot stress this point enough. Is like they really intended to create the most retarded story ever. Remember the Steelbeard's death scene from Risen 2, that's how bad it is.
    - Armor sets are broken. In the other PB games you would won a full armor set when you've reached the highest position in a faction. Not in this case, you will win only a body armor. And you will not be able to complete that armor anyway.
    - Tits are broken. I have nothing against tits but Patty's tits are simply bad taste. Those are the tits of an old whore. It is probably an inside joke from PBs but it's a bad joke. Maybe they over compensate for the stupid game design. I don't know.

    By the way Risen 3 doesn't have shields cause "Shields are for pussies". Fred is gone and there are no two-handed swords. And there is more ...
     
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  10. Gnidrologist CONDUCTOR

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    This is sad. Didn't play Risen2 yet so can't evaluate comparisons with it.
    Anyhow, i'm not sad generally as there seems to be a lot of fine games made since 2008 that i haven't played yet so fuck risens.
     
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  11. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Six page GameBanshee review by WUE: http://www.gamebanshee.com/reviews/114248-risen-3-titan-lords-review/all-pages.html

     
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  12. toro Arcane

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    Good choice. The entire franchise is a waste of time cause there is no consistency between Risen, Risen 2 and Risen 3. They have a couple of islands in common but the game world is simply incoherent - plot happens because it happens, the protagonist changes between games, retarded factions appear from nowhere, magic is lost and found, basic systems like combat are changed and so on. If you would have to play the entire series then you have to spend at least 100h+ in total and there no real payoff. Is true that PB games have a special atmosphere but that's simply not enough to justify the effort.

    Personally I finished them because Gothic was simply awesome and I needed my dose of exploration. Heck, I still remember Diego, Gorn, Lester, Milten and Lee (even Xardas) and I refused to believe that PB has lost it. I wanted to like Risen and I was ready to overlook some shit but their track record is too much: 2 great games, 1 failure (good game if combat is dismissed), 1 mediocre game followed by 2 complete chores with pathetic DLCs. PB developed in complete isolation from the community, they made compromises for consoles and the local german praise functions like an echo chamber for them. This is one dead developer.

    And think about this: after 3 games the story arc or the main story has no conclusion - the world is in the same shitty state as in the beginning and the protagonist is AWOL. Which means that they have no idea what to do with this franchise except trying to get as much cash as possible. This is not the product of some vision and you lose nothing by not playing it.
     
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  13. adddeed Liturgist Possibly Retarded

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    Go read some books if you want stories.
     
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  14. Stainless Veteran Arcane

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    [​IMG], indeed.
     
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  15. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Uh, what? Risen 2 story good? It was a Pirates of the Carribean fan fiction and basically indistinguishable from Risen 3. They were both good at connecting the backstories & conceits of each island together, and bad at pretty much everything else. The only real difference is that R3 has too many skeletons.

    Using summons makes combat trivial in every PB game, none of which ever learned to handle combat between multiple participants properly. It works best when it's you against the other guy, or maybe you against 2-3 enemies where you can get chewed up the arse.

    Risen 1's genuine flaws do include (1) shitty loot distribution, (2) shitty endgame, just like all PB games. The excellent exploration, early game quests, and well tuned combat takes it very far though. Gothics were always very simple games that got a few things very very right. Now that those things are gone...
     
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  16. cvv Arcane Patron

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    DU should level up that tag a notch.
     
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  17. Zeriel Arcane

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    Having never had a sister, I have no problem fantasizing about a sister in some video game.

    Those floppy tits, though... not fantasizable.
     
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  18. Bubbles I'm forever blowing

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    Actually it has a conclusion, because the series is over now. You may not find it satisfying, but it is finished.
     
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  19. toro Arcane

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    I think we have different notions about what a conclusion means.

    And the series might not be as dead as it should.
     
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  20. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I would love a Gothic style game in an Expeditions: Conquistador setting - what they tried to do with Risen but better. But since that's too similar, it's unlikely.
     
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  21. ZagorTeNej Arcane

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    Just started this, combat is really fucking terrible, it's floaty, has no weight, isn't fluid, has shitty collision detection (lost count how many times my hits went through a dragon snapper) and has rolling (though Risen 2 already had this IIRC) instead of dodging/sidestep to add to the insult. I have no idea how one can go from designing such an excellent ARPG combat system in the first Risen to this crap. Maybe it will improve once I buy/train/upgrade some skills.

    That said, exploration seems improved over Risen 2, I'm at the very beginning but already I've found a few locked chests and some legendary crab shell item when I wondered off the main path.
     
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  22. 1451 Seeker In My Safe Space

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    Saying that exploration is better than in Risen 2 is meaningless. Risen 2 has no exploration at all. You must follow the tracks or the game teleports you. It's like saying Gran Turismo has exploration. You explore the tracks.
     
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  23. Multidirectional Arcane

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    Main story wasn't any good but it has some really fun characters and dialogue. I haven't played much of Risen 3 yet (I'm actually replaying R1 for now), but from the little I've seen it was definitely a lot more boring as far as conversations go. I visited gnome island and even those don't seem to be funny anymore. And that protagonist VA is fucking atrocious. I actually quite liked the main char VA in R2, I wish they just kept him even if it's a different character.
     
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  24. Alfons Prophet

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    How is Risens combat system excellent?All of PB combat is rotten at the core.
    Humanoid enemies have infinite parries that you can't effectively break and enemies dodge up the ass.Those two things might not be too bad by themselves but combine it with the fact that you can't pull enemies and that most groups consist of at least 3 mobs and you've got yourself a recipe for a shitty system right there.
     
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  25. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Well if we're talking outside the main quest, R2 and R3 is a similar style, though one could argue it was fresher in R2.

    What the fuck? No infinite parries, no excessive dodge. Not in G1, Not in G2, Not in R1. What is broken is handling larger scale battles or ranged combat.
     
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