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Codex Review RPG Codex Review: Disco Elysium

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Infinitron, Nov 5, 2019.

  1. Maxie Der Einzige Patron

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    I'm getting more insane every minute this retarded shit is mentioned on a gaming website despite not being a game discussed by paint huffing simians who don't play games full stop

    Allah stay my hand or I will claim many heads
     
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  2. MRY Prestigious Gentleman Wormwood Studios Developer

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    CRPGs? No, unless you count DE. P&P is not something I’ve done since I was a kid, but my understanding is that there are now quite a few combat-free or combat-lite (DE does have some minimal combat) RPGs.

    The thing is, hardcore RPG aficionados praise RPGs that offer pacifist paths for offering those paths. No hardcore adventure game fan praises adventures for offering puzzle-free paths. Hence, while I consider puzzles essential to the adventure game genre, I’m iffier on combat in RPGs. That said, I wouldn’t argue that an essentially puzzle-free adventure like Unavowed is really an RPG. It’s easier to call it an adventure with limited puzzles. I likewise think it’s easier to call DE an RPG with limited or no combat.
     
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  3. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    each and every single one of them is shit
     
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  4. Prime Junta Arcane Patron

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    Asking whether a game belongs in this or that category is pointless and stupid. Only shopkeepers need to do it to know which shelf to stick the box in (virtual or physical).

    Instead, look at what characteristics a game has. The Mass Effects for example have cover shooter, cinematic, and RPG characteristics. Disco has CYOA and RPG characteristics. IE games have RTS and RPG elements. This leads to an understanding that's more accurate, more useful, and more nuanced than simple pigeonholing.
     
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  5. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    It has exactly zero CYOA characteristics because there is no C.
     
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  6. Prime Junta Arcane Patron

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    Senpai notices you. You can sit down now. :pat pat:
     
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  7. lukaszek the determinator

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    how? From perspective of someone who didn't play it, review says nothing
     
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  8. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    Intelligent discourse about game mechanics in action.
     
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  9. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    Trashos I can’t speak for the right, but JarlFrank seems to love the game. Luckmann liked it, too (though he had issues with its simplistic approach to fascism). And they’re, uh, pretty right wing. Edit: in before Luckmann yells at me for mischaracterizing his Strasserite fusion of far left and far right.

    As Junta said, the political ideologies are caricatures, but it’s not just in there as a series of cheap jokes (it does provide a lot of jokes, many of which are very funny though YMMV). Disco is sort of an existential crisis simulator. You have the option to embrace a set of unsubtle, doctrinaire ideologies (communism, fascism, libertarianism, extremely sensible centrism) the way a drowning man might cling to a life raft. Or you can also not do that.

    Disco takes place in a neighborhood where a large union is on strike, and the labor dispute between the workers and the major multinational corporation that employs them is pretty central to the plot (neither side is good). Plus, the city is still recovering from a bloody, failed communist revolution fifty years before and it has no sovereignty—it’s basically a protectorate of an organization that looks a lot like the EU. So for the most part having a political reaction to what’s going on around you never felt shoehorned in (at least to me).
     
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  10. Prime Junta Arcane Patron

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    If you want to have an intelligent discussion, stop larping a neckbeard. Until then, you're just the pigeon shitting on the chess board.

    Also, stop being a faggot and un-restrict your profile, we can have interpersonal discussions there rather than shitting up the forums.
     
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  11. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Good boy. Stay.
     
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  12. Dedicated_Dark Learned

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    With the way things are going I am assuming we can finally kick out Oblivion from the list of top Codex RPGs.

    Let's put DE there at 101th position.
     
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  13. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    I asked myself - what about games which are themselves categories?
     
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  14. Prime Junta Arcane Patron

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    Ask yourself why you need categories in the first place, grasshopper.
     
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  15. Dedicated_Dark Learned

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    Dark Souls is the Disco Elysium of RPGs. No actual role-playing but everybody insists it's an RPG.
     
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  16. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    I thought it's an action game.

    Categories will not be needed once Communism is built. Until then, they will be indispensible.
     
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  17. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    I agree with Luckmann that the depiction of fascism in the game is mostly just basic bitch right wing prole stuff. Muh foreigners and muh women, rather than actual fascist doctrine.

    I didn't mind it too much because all of the political options in the game are exaggerated parodies more than genuine positions. They're taken straight out of those silly political compass memes. Heck, centrism, the most commonly "reasonable" position that should resonate with most players since most people tend to be moderate and don't care too much about political issues, is literally "I don't know anything about politics and am too indecisive to commit to an opinion" in the game. All of the politial options are poking fun at their respective ideologies.

    I recommended this game to some of my nazi friends and they're having a good time with it, too. And not just because of the political stuff, but because of everything else.

    The politics is really just a backdrop and something to poke fun at occasionally. The real meat are all the personal relations of the characters, solving the case, and digging up your own past.
     
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  18. lukaszek the determinator

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  19. Strange Fellow Arcane Patron

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    you are all my nazi friends
     
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  20. Prime Junta Arcane Patron

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    You have gotten careful since that... thing happened.
     
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  21. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    Strasserism is leftist and a meme, and it's not "my" fusion, it's basic fucking third positionism, a rejection of false dichotomies! :argh:
     
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  22. Sailor Woedica Savant The Real Fangirl

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    Ok boomer
     
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  23. Maxie Der Einzige Patron

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    don't you dare ever quote my shit lest you wish to come home on xmas in a fucking bodybag capisce
     
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  24. lukaszek the determinator

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    I like what I've red, Goral we I need full review from you, with fortepianos, chess and few 'ustawka'
     
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  25. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    Same. At least one of them even paid for it.
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    On fucking steeeaaaaam reeeeeeeeeee. :argh:
     
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