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Codex Review RPG Codex Review: Pillars of Eternity II - It's Pretty Alright

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Aug 25, 2018.

  1. Kit Walker Totally Not Captain Shrek

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    What the hell is happening here! DR writes a neutral-positive review and PJ writes an antagonistic one.

    Hipsterism on the rise!

    Also, the fact is that both PoE 1/2 are mediocre games, without anything going on for them. It is both puzzling and mildly amusing to see that the opnions on them are so fluctuating.

    You make a silly assumption that strategic games can't be fun.
     
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  2. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Infinitron changed their passwords, didn't you Infinitron?
     
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  3. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    Prime Junta, I've attempted to replay P1 after Deadfire and found it unbearable to even look at.

    You get used to the numerous improvements in the sequel quite fast, and after that point there's no going back. Lack of multi-classing and bland itemization, that alone makes P1 a no-go. How many times you can replay it using the same 5 items with the same classes that you already know inside and out. Impossibru.
     
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  4. Alpan Learned Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Prime Junta's "downfall" was predictable. The next step will be reconciliation where he takes PoE I off the pedestal and concedes that DF, a game he has sunk more than a hundred hours into, might have more merits than he originally deemed it to have.

    I am flabbergasted by other opinions stating that PoE I's plot had actual depth or impact to it. Are you serious? How did PoE I "pressure" its players in any way? The story was completely inconsequential! DF is better for not taking itself so seriously.
     
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  5. Safav Hamon Liturgist Village Idiot The Real Fanboy

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    I didn't love PoE1. I thought it was okay considering it was a new IP and very experimental, but it's not a game I ever plan on revisiting.

    Deadfire is a HUGE improvement and I will replay many times. I even thought most of the writing was good too, although I agree that the main plot and romances are iffy. Its biggest problem is the same as PoE1, which is that there's still a lot of untested and experimental features/ideas, but I think given a chance to make PoE3 it could turn out to be a masterpiece.
     
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  6. Flou Learned

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    I'm partially with you on this. I definately enjoyed IE games and I've had fun with Tyranny, Pillars and Deadfire, but at the same time it's too much of that same thing over and over again.

    Three back to back games with the same engine and all three in fantasy setting kinda takes out the freshness that came with Pillars. I'll gladly play the DLCs for Deadfire and beat the megabosses, but at the same time I'm not really expecting 3rd Pillars game or Tyranny sequel. Maybe in 3-4 years I might be ready for such game, but right now, nope.

    I'm not against all of the changes they made for Deadfire, but the game was just too damn easy after all the tinkering Sawyer and his system designers did. The game had 1 fight that was actually hard, few challenging ones and rest didn't really challenge you at all.

    Deadfire isn't a bad game or even mediocre, it's good, but it could have been much better and like Pillars I bet it will be a lot better once they are done with it. I just don't see myself playing through the game again.
     
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  7. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    Very few people enjoy any number of resource-draining easy fights these days.
     
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  8. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Yeah, some people concider a lot of BG or IWD mediocre. Deadfire at some places (like companions) falls to Dragonspear level. Which is about as low as lowest modern Bioware level.

    Which is, pretty goddamn low and below what I would concider "mediocre". PoE1 biggest fault was it was dull/disorganised/pretentious with multiple writers pulling it to different directions, Deadfire is actually retarded at places.
     
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  9. Chippy Learned

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    "The writing in Deadfire drops more balls than a juggler with Parkinson’s"...

    And right there I'm willing to bet you have a sentence wittier than anything writen in the game.
     
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  10. BEvers I'm forever blowing

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    [​IMG]

    Is this really in the game? No Photoshop? :eek:
     
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  11. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    Ugh, feels like something straight out of a shitty Penny Arcade-like webcomic...
     
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  12. Kit Walker Totally Not Captain Shrek

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    The appeal of PoE firstly is only for IE "enthusiasts". Does PoE 1/2 accomplish anything beyond being a bad IE clone? Does it create a new exciting world, new exciting characters? New exciting mechanics? New exciting stories?

    I don't think so. So, mediocre.
     
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  13. BING XI LAO Learned

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    It added really good shadows and lighting!
     
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  14. Lambach Arcane

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    Deadfire tries, and sometimes even succeeds, in being a lot more than a simple IE clone, just by the fact that a fair number of quests have non-combat, skill-based solutions available to them. Deadfire also has a substantially lower amount of trash combat than IE.

    With writers who weren't hired to fill a diversity quota, a proper combat resource management system and some more polish, Deadfire could've been one of the best RPGs of the decade. But alas....
     
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  15. Sherry Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Hi.

    Gosh!

    This was a nice read to come across during my morning coffee (afternoon because we all slept in today after getting home late from our camping trip). Still had to skip over the story part because I am still playing the game and not even the new expansion yet. I will be resuming my game shortly and wanted to say thanks for your time in reviewing. Don't forget to vote it for goty here too when the time comes *clinks* [​IMG]

    Thanks,
    Sherry
     
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  16. Grotesque ±¼ Patron

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    are you retarded?
     
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  17. ItsChon Erudite Patron

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    It's either a quality troll, or an actual 40 year old soccer mom. You're retarded for not figuring that out.
     
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  18. Grotesque ±¼ Patron

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    Summerfart, get the fuck back at sucking JarlFrank's cock.
    And with diligence.
     
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  19. DeepOcean Arcane

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    So, this is SOZ 2.0 with shitty writing and broken challenge progression?

    On, man, that is a hell of an endorsement!:lol:

    Anyway, wake me when Obsidian decides to make a sequel of their better expansion... ehhh, actually not, not interested into reading pages worthy of descriptions of how Myrkul's skull is shiny or how Kaelin is a lesbian aasimar.
     
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  20. Parabalus Arcane

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    The genre (IE-style RPGs) never had developer imposed attrition, it was all self-restraint by players.
     
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  21. Diggfinger Arbiter

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    So "it's pretty alright™" is the new black on the RPG Codex website, huh?
    Not quite as edgy as "it sucks potato-sized turds", is it?
    Whatever happened to "we hate everything you love!"! ???!!!!?
    :stunned:

    Should this trend of softness continue, I'll consider switching to RPGWatch instead
    :smug:
     
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  22. Sizzle Arcane

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    A strange way to announce you're coming out of the closet, but, hey, we understand - sometimes you just gotta follow your dreams :D
     
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  23. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    That doesn't work on things that aren't loved by anyone.
     
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  24. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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    Codex 2012 MCA Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    It is a shit review on a shit game by a shit developer, written by a shit reviewer.

    And now we have a shitty newfag shitposting in its thread.

    [​IMG]
     
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  25. Cadmus Arcane

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    I get the impression that the combat isn't as boring and the character development as inconsequential as in the first game? Might be worth the try. On the other hand, the writing being even worse...I can't decide. Herp me, Loxolu-chan!!
     
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