Official Codex Discord Server

  1. Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.
    Dismiss Notice

RPG Codex's Best RPGs - 2019 - RESULTS ARE OUT!

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by felipepepe, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. SmoothPimp Novice

    SmoothPimp
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2013
    Messages:
    19
    Somehow CK2 appeared in voting. Brilliant game, but it's pure global strategy.
     
    • retadred retadred x 1
    ^ Top  
  2. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

    majorsoccer
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2019
    Messages:
    175
    mechanically Crusader Kings 2 is more RPG than 99% of others games in the list
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • No No x 1
    ^ Top  
  3. pomenitul Learned

    pomenitul
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    Messages:
    594
    Location:
    μεταβολή
    I had my doubts about this poll but the Witcher-related butthurt made it all worthwhile.
     
    • Funny Funny x 8
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Yes Yes x 1
    ^ Top  
  4. Q Augur Patron

    Q
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2006
    Messages:
    153
    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Torment: Tides of Numenera Divinity: Original Sin 2
    Witcher3 is 45th and Arx Fatalis is 49th in corret(ed) version (with downvotes).

    I don't remember drastic differences in W3 storyline. Yes it has 3 endings and some character endings, but most of it postgame. There is some C&C ingame, allright. But that's only RPG elements it have. I can compare W3 to Telltale adventures in that regard.
    But in combat and progression it's even worse.
    When you find some weapon it will be autoleveled to your level. And most of the loot is complete random. Or at least it was when I played the game. I think it's a shitty system, cause there is no motivation for exploring at all.
    You can't upgrade all skills, yes. But the playing style is not really changes if you choose one build or another.
     
    • Acknowledge this user's Agenda Acknowledge this user's Agenda x 1
    • Bad Spelling Bad Spelling x 1
    • Shit Shit x 1
    ^ Top  
  5. Void_Pickle Literate

    Void_Pickle
    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2019
    Messages:
    24
    I'm not sure how much stock you can place in the downvotes, since not everyone who voted downvoted.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    ^ Top  
  6. fork Erudite

    fork
    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2017
    Messages:
    975
    True, but for this particular example (Witcher 3 vs. Arx Fatalis) that doesn't matter much. On the contrary, Witcher 3 would've received even more downvotes compared to Arx Fatalis.
     
    • Yes Yes x 1
    • [citation needed] [citation needed] x 1
    ^ Top  
  7. S.torch Learned

    S.torch
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2019
    Messages:
    107
    I really don't understand your complains. The game you voted the first (Planescape) has a very, very defective combat system to say the least, if I remember correctly, only one of the three finals is the "good one" and you are given a "base-character". In other words, you have a lot of things in common between Planescape and The Witcher, yet you think is best anyway.

    You're sure you're not disliking it because is "new"?
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    • Button Button x 1
    ^ Top  
  8. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

    fantadomat
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2017
    Messages:
    14,775
    Location:
    Bulgaria
    Same could be said about Vampire and Dark souls. It will be a nice to have a sub-genre poll about the best in each respective sub genre.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
    • Agree Agree x 6
    ^ Top  
  9. thesheeep Arcane

    thesheeep
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2007
    Messages:
    7,846
    Location:
    Tampere, Finland
    Here, some of you guys seem to need it:
    Show Spoiler
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 10
    • Yes Yes x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • butthurt butthurt x 1
    ^ Top  
  10. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    Jasede
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2005
    Messages:
    21,753
    Location:
    Fluffy Pillow
    And PS:T could be called a jRPG, something Dark Souls certainly isn't. Some extremists consider System Shock 2 a pure FPS with a tacked-on skill system. I personally consider Jagged Alliance 2 a tactical combat simulator with RPG elements, and not an RPG.

    It would just be endless arguing about whether a certain game is part of a certain category or not.

    Don't you remember the endless "Deus Ex is an RPG! No, Deus Ex is an FPS with RPG elements! No, Deus Ex is an FPS/RPG hybrid! No, Deus Ex is a First Person Adventure! (The latter is a less-known term Nintendo coined to describe Metroid Prime.)" threads?
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 9
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • what? what? x 1
    ^ Top  
  11. Joni Odin von Hassenstein Arcane Patron

    Joni Odin von Hassenstein
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2013
    Messages:
    3,907
    Location:
    Berlin, Germany
    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    I just want moar polls!
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Yes Yes x 2
    • Excited! Excited! x 1
    ^ Top  
  12. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

    majorsoccer
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2019
    Messages:
    175
    In my honest opinion: No character creation = no RPG
     
    • Participation Award x 2
    • Brofist x 1
    • WTF am I reading x 1
    • retadred x 1
    • Shit x 1
    ^ Top  
  13. Sailor Woedica Learned The Real Fangirl

    Sailor Woedica
    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2018
    Messages:
    580
    Slay queen!
     
    • Shit Shit x 4
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • incline incline x 1
    • retadred retadred x 1
    ^ Top  
  14. Q Augur Patron

    Q
    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2006
    Messages:
    153
    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Torment: Tides of Numenera Divinity: Original Sin 2
    PST combat is not it's high point, yes.
    But at least you have 3 different classes, which you can mix a little.
    You have different stats setups. Which is affecting what you can and can't do in dialogue checks at least.
    You can have different party setups.
    So, I think, one Nameless One would still differ more from another, than one W3 Geralt form another.
    And there is still the question about quality of these tools. In PST we have party combat, with at least some tactical spells. We have hand placed loot, for different Nameless One roles (and different party members).
    As the future RPGs, I want games at least have more roleplaying tools like PST, and not like W3.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 4
    ^ Top  
  15. Strange Fellow Magister Patron

    Strange Fellow
    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2018
    Messages:
    1,703
    • Funny Funny x 11
    • Yes Yes x 1
    • honk honk! honk honk! x 1
    ^ Top  
  16. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

    fantadomat
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2017
    Messages:
    14,775
    Location:
    Bulgaria
    Ahh the poll is as expected,the classics are still holding up while the first generation is disappearing from the list. It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans. Anyway,it is a decent list.



    felipepepe how about a few polls in sub genres line action/adventure,rtwp,tb/tactical,blobbers ?
     
    • Yes Yes x 1
    ^ Top  
  17. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    Nano
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Messages:
    936
    Um, as in Bloodlines? Literally no one argues that it isn't an RPG.
     
    • hopw roewur ne hopw roewur ne x 1
    ^ Top  
  18. Ismaul Arcane Patron

    Ismaul
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,866,041
    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
    I'm not sure that's the only factor. New games are out, and some have displaced others in our personal top lists, so that also has an influence. Plus, limited points to distribute makes some games fall off the wayside. Between classics and new good games, some previous games are bound to be lost from the list.
     
    • Agree Agree x 6
    ^ Top  
  19. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

    fantadomat
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2017
    Messages:
    14,775
    Location:
    Bulgaria
    They are different kind of RPGs mate,they rely heavily on atmosphere and player immersion trough good writing and dialogue choices.
     
    • incline incline x 1
    ^ Top  
  20. Mortmal Arcane

    Mortmal
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    5,296
    The witcher is coming from a very special country, a country of people staying between themselves, only using their own language in shoutbox, religious fanatics burning harry potter books in the street...Poland. So the butthurt about witcher 3 losing its rank was to be expected.
     
    • WTF am I reading WTF am I reading x 1
    • retadred retadred x 1
    ^ Top  
  21. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

    fantadomat
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2017
    Messages:
    14,775
    Location:
    Bulgaria
    Yeah,i agree the points were not enough,it would have been better if they were 30. That way you still get to for those you like the most and have enough to give for a new entries. Everything else got an increase,except the points per dude. I would argue about new games pushing away old classics from any self respecting grognard's list. Still we did get a lot of good RPGs in the past few years.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    ^ Top  
  22. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

    majorsoccer
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2019
    Messages:
    175
    decline is trying to play a game without automap
     
    • Participation Award Participation Award x 1
    ^ Top  
  23. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

    fantadomat
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2017
    Messages:
    14,775
    Location:
    Bulgaria
    True,they don't make them as they use to. Now RPGs are tailored around auto maps and GPS garbage dots. While in the good old days my son,there was no such shit,NPCs were giving you directions to the place you need to go and the map design was logical and well crafted. Ohhhhh how i have grown old my son,things change and as always the good old days were better!
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    ^ Top  
  24. Ismaul Arcane Patron

    Ismaul
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,866,041
    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
    Uhhh, you sure the butthurt is about it losing rank, not being still so high on the list when matched with classics?

    Sure it lost a bit to AoD, but aside from that, the top 10 is pretty much inaccessible to recent games. So TW3 going from #1 in 2012-2016 to #15 of all time is not much of a drop really if you start the rank count at 11 for recent games.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • it is a mystery it is a mystery x 1
    ^ Top  
  25. toro Arcane

    toro
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    8,525
    It's a meme.
     
    • No No x 2
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
    ^ Top  

(buying stuff via the above buttons helps us pay the hosting bills, thanks!)