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RPG Codex's Best RPGs - 2019 - RESULTS ARE OUT!

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by felipepepe, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. Latro Arcane

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    new top 10 with shit games removed:

    1. fallout
    2. deus ex
    3. gothic 2
    4. AoD
    5. Jaggy Ally 2
    6. Underrail
    7. Gothic 1
    8. Grimoire
    9. System Shock 2
    10. Betrayal at Krondor


    pretty good list imo
     
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  2. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    felipepepe So you'll accommodate each game in the poll a new review/comment written by others, leave the old ones or won't do it at all?
     
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  3. Void_Pickle Literate

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    You can get around that problem by changing your class up through the game. I went mage->assassin?-> mage knight thing in my playthrough. Didn't matter enough though, and each time combat quickly became tedious.

    I don't fundamentally have a problem with the traversal, but I don't recall exploration being very rewarding.. which definitely hurt it.
     
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  4. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

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    Now hold up there a second ! its me who should be shitposting not you !
     
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  5. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

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    Remove AoD and Grimoire and i agree with you !
     
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  6. fork Cipher

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    Fair enough. But there are 9 vocations you can max out, which is impossible to do in 30 hours, because you don't earn Discipline anywhere near fast enough. Trying out and maxing different vocations to earn augments (which carry over between vocations) is a huge part of the game. But even if you just try a few, the number of different play styles the game offers is pretty great, even without taking your pawn into account (I mostly play the game solo).

    :prosper:

    The map is pretty fucking small.
    So yeah, the quick travel implementation isn't the problem, the small map is.
     
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  7. Zboj Lamignat Arcane

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    Thanks for the good work felipepepe !!

    Forgot to vote lol.

    Same as last time: the list as a whole is OK, but the respective positions... aren't. That top 10 is all sorts of fucked up for a community that's supposed to be crpg connoisseurs n shieeet.

    Positions of certain games (for example Age of Decadence, Grimoire, Elex, Shadowrun) unfortunately show that many people do not take this voting thing very seriously or just lack exposure. Or both.

    There is also very visible decline of console action games with rpg elements gaining more and more ground, but that's to be expected and I guess doesn't really surprise anyone.

    Biggest surprise for me is FNV actually dropping (marginally, but still). I was quite certain that it will become no 1 crpg of all time according to codex around now or top3 at the very least.
     
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  8. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    As a side note - it is a shame that Ultima Underworld I & (especially!) II suffered such a huge downfall in the ratings. They're not that inaccessible, being early 1990s games and calling them dungeon crawlers in short of an insult, they're actual Action-RPGs, damn it!
     
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  9. Mortmal Arcane

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    I spent enough hours on grimoire to judge it, everything is too easy , trivial, encounters were frozen and dispatched in a few rounds. I played it at release maybe he fixed it, but even if he did it was unacceptable to release in that state. You can find passionate post about elminage by aweigh on those very own forums,i dont see similar posts about grimoire , japs must be doing something right. Am i a dumbfuck ? Maybe i should be worried, you shown your expertise on dumbfuckery in the bitcoin thread, lot of it .
     
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  10. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

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    its not fixed,grimoire is unfinished full of bugs and mediocre content,don't bother with that game.
     
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  11. Mr. Magniloquent Savant

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    I abstained from voting because I have backlogs with relevant contenders. A great deal has happened in the last 5 years of the RPG genre which I simply haven't played. I felt like voting would have skewed and diluted the results.
     
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  12. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Like some others said, I kind of like the idea of a top 100 just so Oblivion can be on there near the bottom and annoy some casuals who stumble upon it.

    Anyway, solid list. At least half the top ten list would be on my personal top ten list, and you can't be mad about that.
     
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  13. Trashos Arcane

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    FNV? As in, Fallout New Vegas? Isn't it up one spot from #8 to #7?
     
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  14. buffalo bill Savant

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    Damn, this list is crap compared to the previous one. TW3 at 15? Both Pillars games in the top 70? Darklands drops twenty seven places? Wow.

    Is it possible to institute an exam that Codex members must pass before they can vote in these threads, so we don't get crappy modern RTwP Baldur's Gate clones or action games polluting our lists? Codex voter ID laws maybe?

    Plato was right, democracy is a tyranny of degenerate appetites.
     
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  15. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    Codex 2014 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Mission accomplished for me. Max-voted five games, all five are in, with the lowest at Nr. 30.

    The reason I max-voted Grimoire is because how intertwined it is with the RPG Codex itself. It would simply have been Wrong to exclude it IMO, hence the points.

    We have a Problem, however:

    What the hell is this crap?!!

    You're lumping together games that have no purpose being lumped together.

    I'm talking about the Fallout series. Split that tally into two groups: Interplay/Black Isle-era, and Bethesda-era.

    While I can argue for further splits in just the games seen here, the gap is not as wide there as with the two Fallout-eras.
     
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  16. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    Didn't know czechs and russians are also Bethesda.
     
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  17. Mortmal Arcane

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    Its good there's still codexers with balls who speak their mind against the crowd .
     
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  18. Rean Codex Grammar Police Patron

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    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Edgy tryhard people who joined less than 3 years ago thinking they know the Codex.

    :nocountryforshitposters:
     
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  19. moraes Arcane Patron

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    What would that accomplish? You would have a Fallout "Bethesda" series sitting above Wizardry with 90%+ of points belonging to a game developed by Obsidian. Not really informative.
     
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  20. Zboj Lamignat Arcane

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    Ah, you're right. That's much less of a surprise then.
     
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  21. North Gibraltarian Dog Learned

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    There are 22 new games in top 72, but many good rpgs with an accepted relevance in rpg history fall more than these 22 places... Darklands and Ultima V fall 30 positions, Ultima Underworld II fall 39, Geneforge 34 or Wasteland 41. Other less revolutionary but decent games in previous codex list also fall more than 22 places: Divine Divinity 34, Albion 62, M&M III 85!

    Also, most of those games not only fall in positions but in votes! In a poll with +55% votes/voters Darklands or TToEE obtained far less votes than in the previous poll. In the new top 20, only Fallout 2 received less votes (-27 or -7.5%) in 2019.

    As Thal said blobberists vote to Grimoire or Wizardry I could explain a great part of M&M and Wizardrys decline. But what about Darklands, The Temple of Elemental Evil, Ultima V, Wasteland or Geneforge?
     
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  22. Shadenuat Arcane

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    making his first steps becoming known as a good rpg
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    Kingmaker.
     
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  23. V_K Arcane

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    Well personally I removed Darklands from my vote (voted for it in the original poll, didn't this time) partly to make space for some newer games, partly because my tastes have changed somewhat in the past 5 years - namely, I stopped enjoying CYOA sequences and started appreciating blobbers more.
     
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  24. Strange Fellow Arcane Patron

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    It's a consequence of the voting system. I'm not going to pile on the bitching, but suffice it to say that less popular games suffer exorbitantly. For the games few people have played to be rated fairly in the poll, those who have played them would have to vote strategically, and many people, including myself, don't bother to do so. If I had been given 100 points, Ultima V would've gotten some, but as it stands I had none to spare for it, which means that as far as the numbers are concerned I like it exactly as much as I like Dragon Age Inquisition.

    ToEE has no business in the top 20, however. And while Darklands should've been higher on the list, I'll be damned if it deserves any of my precious points.
     
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  25. majorsoccer Prospernaut Shitposter

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    the voting system should have been like that:

    your fav 10 RPGs in order:

    1 = 10 points
    2 = 9 points
    3= 8 points
    4= 7 points
    5= 6 points
    ...
     
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