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Incline RPG Codex's Top Non-RPG PC games - VOTE THREAD

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by felipepepe, Mar 8, 2020.

  1. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I can't believe I was the only one that voted for Outlaws.
    And the original Master of Orion ranked as low as number 100 is an outrage.
    Apart from that it looks like a good list.
     
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  2. PlanHex Arcane Patron

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    But where's the bayesian average?!
     
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  4. Lemming42 Arcane

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    To help with categorising it, I really quickly went through Lady Error's 1000+ MEGA-LIST and picked out FPS games. Here they are in descending order.

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    Doom (1993)
    Half-Life (1998)
    Quake (1996)
    Duke Nukem 3D (1996)
    Half-Life 2 (2004)
    Unreal Tournament (1999)
    Blood (1997)
    Doom 2 (1994)
    System Shock (1994)
    F.E.A.R. (2005)
    S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (2009)
    Dark Messiah of Might & Magic (2006)
    Quake 2 (1997)
    No One Lives Forever (2000)
    Counter-Strike (1999)
    Return to Castle Wolfenstein (2001)
    Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Dark Forces II (1997)
    Bioshock (2007)
    Crysis (2007)

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    Unreal (1998)
    Unreal Tournament 2004 (2004)
    Descent (1995)
    Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield (2003)
    SWAT 4 (2005)
    Heretic (1994)
    No One Lives Forever 2 (2002)
    Far Cry (2004)
    Metro 2033 (2010)
    Metro: Exodus (2019)
    Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (2003)
    Left 4 Dead (2008)
    Postal 2 (2003)
    Call of Duty 4 (2007)
    Doom 3 (2004)
    Hexen (1995)
    Quake 3: Arena (1999)
    Call of Duty 2 (2005)
    Day of Defeat (2003)
    DOOM (2016)
    Shadow Warrior (1997)
    Wolfenstein 3D (1992)
    Bioshock Infinite (2013)
    Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012)
    Star Wars: Dark Forces (1995)
    Hidden & Dangerous 2 (2003)
    Medal of Honor (1999)
    Rainbow Six Siege (2015)
    SWAT 3 (1999)
    Call of Duty (2003)
    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009)
    Call of Duty: Black Ops (2010)
    Descent 2 (1996)
    DUSK (2018)
    Far Cry 2 (2008)
    Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon (2013)
    Final Doom (1996)
    Half-Life: Opposing Force (1999)
    Halo (2001)
    Insurgency (2014)
    Kingpin: Life of Crime (1999)
    Overload (2017)
    Ultimate Doom (1995)
    Aliens vs Predator (1999)
    Painkiller (2004)
    Serious Sam (2001)
    Battlefield 4 (2013)
    Blood 2 (1997)
    Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 (2018)
    Call of Duty: Ghosts (2013)
    Call of duty: Black Ops 2 (2012)
    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remaster (2019)
    Call of Duty: WW2 (2017)
    Crysis 2 (2011)
    Far Cry 4 (2014)
    Metro: Last Light (2013)


    This is only the first 600 or so games on the list, because I'm tired and can't be bothered going through like 400 more games. This is also mainly just games I instantly recognised as being FPS games, so there's a good chance I've missed some. Plus, these are just games I consider to be FPS - I left out Portal (puzzle game) and Mirror's Edge (platformer) for example, but I assume people are gonna disagree.
     
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  5. Fronzel Neekburm Cipher Patron

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    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex USB, 2014 Shadorwun: Hong Kong
    Pretty solid list overall, with the exception of the glorified physics demo Half-Life 2 ranking higher than the often copied, never reached all-time classic System Shock.
     
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  6. zwanzig_zwoelf Graverobber Foundation Developer

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    What's the problem with that? Having more great (or even good) games to play that you might've overlooked in the past is always a good thing.
    Also, the last sentence is retarded.
    You're right, Life is Strange is a traditional RPG and shouldn't be in this poll. After all, it's got choices & consequences, therefore it's an RPG according to the KKKodex KKKonsensus.
     
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  7. catfood AGAIN

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    HoMMo at #1 while MoM is at #15. The Codex truly is going down the toilet.
     
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  8. Blutwurstritter Educated

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    The full list makes me realize that i played a lot of games when i was younger. I have really become lazy.
     
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  9. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    Two walking simulators in the top 5 though as if having Morrowind and shit like that in the Top cRPG wasn't enough.
     
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  10. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    With your list (sorted one) i find 201 for UFO instead of 202, UFO: Extraterrestrial being a different game.

    Not sure it's worth it to count again post by post like i did yesterday, it's easy to make mistakes and the alternative is worse, if i didn't, it'd mean there was an error while exporting data.
    So, my mistake, your count is perfect.

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    Also, there is two people on my IL so there's that, not that their shit taste matters.
     
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  11. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    And Unreal so low.
    I think it has aged better than games like Quake, Duke Nukem and Half-Life.
     
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  12. samuraigaiden Learned

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    Severance: Blade of Darkness seems to have made it to the top 100. Mission accomplished.
     
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  13. Optimist Learned Patron

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    :hmmm:

    Thanks for compiling the list, Lady Error. Added a few titles to my ever-growing backlog.
     
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  14. Magnat Arcane Vatnik

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    Wait for the next election cycle in 4 years.
     
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  15. DJOGamer PT Arcane

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    Aren't some of those games in the RPG list already?
     
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  16. DJOGamer PT Arcane

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    You can always try pm felipepepe begging to include your votes
     
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  17. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    My results differ only slightly. It should be noted that I only tracked a few potential 'high-scorers', and then I lumped the score together for all the Civilization games, as mentioned previously.

    (From memory)

    HoMM3 was 1st with 265 points.
    Thief 1 was 2nd place with ~215.
    UFO: Enemy Unknown was third with just below 200 points.
    The biggest change was with Starcraft and Thief 2, they were so close in points that I won't make the call which one came in 4th and 5th place.

    Regardless of that, I'm very pleased with the Top 5.

    I kept track of SMAC seperately and know that it scored high, but was pleasantly surprised to see that it comes in sixth.

    Other games I kept track of were Doom, Half-Life and Thief 3. Doom and Half-Life were pretty much the same place in Lady Error's place, but in my books Thief 3 got 18 points, not 17.

    Quake was the highest-scoring title I didn't keep track of, meaning that I got the Top 8 pretty much right.

    As always Felipepepe has the final word, though the only judgement call to make is whether Starcraft or Thief 2 is at No. 4.
     
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  18. Lemming42 Arcane

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    Dunno why everyone's Disagree-ing so hard with this post, I think you're right (except that I don't think it's necessarily aged better than those three games). It took me a few playthroughs to click with it but Unreal is great and deserves a spot in the top 100 for sure. At the very least I'd put it far above the likes of Crysis, Bioshock and Quake 2, all of which made the top 100.

    Also surprised that Descent, Heretic and Far Cry didn't make it into the top 100.
     
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  19. samuraigaiden Learned

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  20. Lemming42 Arcane

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    :lol: To clarify, what I meant was that while I don't think I'd personally say Unreal aged better than those three games, I wouldn't strongly disagree with the argument that it has. It plays just as smoothly as the rest, its visuals have aged just as well (or better than Duke 3D, which doesn't look great during most of Lunar Apocalypse), and there's not much that would alienate a modern audience. And like with Half-Life, the game being a series of connected maps rather than episodes makes it feel closer to post-2000 FPS games.
     
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    Just stating my opinion, but of these three only Descent deserves a shot at the Top 100. Heretic wasn't that good and Far Cry is a tech demo.
     
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  22. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    My 2018 assessment:

     
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  23. Lemming42 Arcane

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    Far Cry definitely is a tech demo but it doubles as a pretty solid game. It derails a little when the mutants show up but I found the combat against human enemies to be a lot of fun.

    It took me a few playthroughs before it suddenly seemed to work for me. The spongey enemies and weak-feeling weapons (especially compared to their UT99 equivalents) were what repelled me from it the first couple times too.

    Now is probably a good time to mention Ash's Unreal Evolution mod, here, which eliminates some of Unreal's gameplay flaws.
     
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