Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (new From Software game)

you're about to get slapped hard my nigga

 

is there a zone after the Horseman? I hit a dead end after his area.

 

For everyone raving about Lady Butterfly ... blablabla ... ring the Demon Bell and then try to fight her.

The boss is not twice as hard, it's more than that. It's fucking insane.

I've spent 3 hours trying to kill her and I lost it at one hit. Then I reversed the Demon Bell effects and I've beaten her on 1st try without taking damage (*almost).

That's the difference between normal and Demon Bell difficulties. I cannot believe it.

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I probably died at that fucking platforming section with the snake more times than I died in the entire game so far

 

Fucking kidding? I just failed like 10 tires against Genochiro. Only once got to the second phase. This dude is krazy. And everything went so swimmingly today...

And to think I once thought the Drunkard was hard

 

I think souls games have more bosses

Oh damn I haven't run into that yet.. Getting my ass handed to me by the

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guardian ape

I blew all my firecrackers in the first phase, was so happy to see "shinobi execution!!!" then the motherfucker picks up its head and runs at me with a sword

 

Very cheap putting the violet ninja in that tight cave.. I'm not saying I can beat him, but the camera is making the fight even harder

 

This is like playing a merchant in AoD and getting upset at the lack of combat options.

 

i think you have to go from the other side.

 

Those are just regular carps.

anti-fear thing is called "Pacifying Agent" you get it in the abandoned dungeon

also pretty sure you can buy more of those items from vendors once you've found one in game...

 

After a number of hours in, I've found it to have improved a lot. Like lots of skill tree based games, you start off in a castrated unfun state, once you get a few upgrades (the ariel stuff, the grappling hook attack, and the shuiken stab) in the combat improves markedly.
A lot of it is still pretty jank though, especially after jus playiing DMC5. That Flaming Bull boss was just shit. Yopu have to get the bull into a corner, control the camer with your chin and dodge round it cutting at its ass and occasionally spamming firecracker. Just terrible. Souls bosses were fun because you had the mutiple appoaches that an RPG offers. As we get closer to core action the more it appears lacking. However the Horse Rider boss was pretty good so idk.

 

It's a good game buried under some seriously obtuse design decisions that will absolutely infuriate you constantly in the beginning hours and often later on.

eg: the game tells you about its rock-paper-scissors blocking system: block a stab, jump a swing, and dodge a grab. The tutorial and tip system will beat this into your head.
Then the game immediately introduces a miniboss with a near-instagib long-range lunging grab that can only be countered by jumping; WTF From?

If you can get over the heavy trial-and-error-based method of figuring out how to do things then you'll find a good game that will give you the same sort of enjoyment as Dark Souls. However, I do struggle to recommend it even though I am still playing the game because when you get stuck, you really get stuck and it's not a hell of a lot of fun. Compare that to another ultra-hard game like God Hand and even there when the game was kicking your ass you always felt like you were making progress because you would get that little bit further each time.

With Sekiro it's all: You picked rock when you should have picked laser-scissors, fuck you. Go spend 5 minutes stealth killing guys for another chance to get instagibbed in 5 seconds for trying something new.

The 83% rating on steam is not entirely unfair, I'd probably give it 85% although it feels wrong considering how much love they put into it.

 

So I assume y'all have finished the game now? How do you rate the story/presentation as compared to DS?

 

As usual, brick wall bosses become easy once you figure out the trick. With the violet ninja, it's side stepping and hitting his health. Don't jump or block or anything, just side step - hit. Unlike most bosses his tracking is bad so you can get away with it.

 

The grab is countered by dodging (i.e. getting away from it, whether by pressing the dodge button, jumping, running away, roping away or whatever). Would you prefer the game to be some type of pavlovian shit where you see yellow light and press the button as a reflex to automatically avoid any attacks without any regard to what is actually going on on a screen?

 

jump on him from above for an easy critical to start off. oil + fire is useful for chipping down is HP (which makes damaging posture easier) and use attacks that focus on health over posture (thrusting attack, dodge r1...)

 

Anyone playing at peasant consoles? Is 30 fps acceptable ? ( I've played original DS and BB like that so it's not a problem for me in principle, but there's games and games.)

 

People who think Chained Ogre is unfair should stop playing this game immediately and spare themselves a chunk of mental health.

 

I have 5 in inventory.

they always manage to make some bosses that are infuriating. I spend hours upon hours to learn to fight against the stupid old hag then I get a miniboss that throws all that out of the window and makes me jump around like a retard in the hopes I dont get hit, manage to hit it in the ass dont lose sight and dont get cornered because then I am dead again.

 

Incorrect. The counter to the lunge-grab is to jump on his head like mario. Sounds like you never figured it out - which is my point. It looks nothing like the sweep attacks a jump is supposed to be used for. How is any player supposed to know without rote trial-and-error that his giant invisible hitbox and turn-on-a-dime tracking only extend to the horizontal dimension?

I am generally not a big stickler for realism in my games but if a game can't stick anywhere near the rules they set up themselves then it's just bad design.

 

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I killed the gorilla boss but he came back to life. Do I need to get the Mortal Blade first?

 

Almost beat Genichiro on my 3rd try. Got him to half health

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on his 3rd true form.

Gameplay still hasn't clicked with me even though I'm getting more into the rhythm of the game. I keep saying it, but maybe it really is time to just accept the reality that this game isn't for me. I keep going back to try it again and again, but I just can't get into it.

 

I feel like if you don't enjoy Genchiro or Butterfly girl you probably just don't like the game

 

There have been talks about frame pacing issues, a la BB and DS3 on PS4.

 

Thanks. Are the bosses more huh, multidimensional or something? I mean, reading people's descriptions it seems every boss is a fucking Elfriede, and I hate the kind of "learn every little different muscle spasm from her body till you know how react to them all blindfolded and beat her" kinda battle.