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Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (new From Software game)

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Matador, Jun 10, 2018.

  1. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Press deflect IMMEDIATELY after his blade flashes. That's all there's to that fight. You'll poise-break him after like 3 deflects.
     
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  2. Wunderbar Arcane

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    Too late, i killed him by tanking his attacks :D
     
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  3. Jinn Arcane

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    Well, I came back and got Genichiro taken care of. I figured out that my problem was that I was trying to deflect more attacks than I was making him deflect. Once I started matching my attacks to his own blows, the fight made a lot more sense. That didn't make it easy by any means, but it made it much more surmountable in my eyes. Again, my problem, not the game's.

    I feel a euphoria. The adrenaline is wearing off and I feel a soothing, but shaky, calm coming over my body. This is what I love about this game. I took a break earlier, but just couldn't stop thinking about the fight. Regardless of how tired I was, I had to get past it. I had to figure it out. And it was an amazing fight.

    I really do love this game, even though it abuses me so.
     
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  4. CyberWhale Arcane

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    Some people seem to dislike the game because it is too similar to Souls games, some seem to dislike it because it isn't similar enough to them.
    A few seem to dislike it because of certain design decisions.

    But overall, judging only from the way most of you write about your experiences, it seems to be a genuinely good game and a new (cult) classic.
     
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  5. Jinn Arcane

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    Wunderbar, of what do I seem fabulously optimistic?
     
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  6. Cyberarmy Love fool Patron

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    Killed it too, such a nice "fight". Proper way to kill a giant boss.

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    I may have came a little when stab its eye from that hiding place. <3


    Edit: My anus started to feel a bit larger after all them bosses, I wonder why. :oops:
     
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  7. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Game is amazing.

    Only small gripes - I think I still prefer stamina-based combat but this one is great too. I wish they didn't decide to include stealth, I feel it cheapens the game (you can one-shot all the big common enemies, you can steal one HP blip from most minibosses...I mean it is fun, sort of, but I'd prefer just a straight up combat game).

    Level design is fantastic too but a teeeeny gripe - I feel there are fewer secrets and fewer typical From's devious details. For example in DS1 and DS3 there are TWO huge areas that are super secret. Nothing like that in Sekiro (well, as far as I know - don't spoil if there is). Also I've only found two secret walls so far, mainly because there aren't that many indoor areas. I hoped they'd double down on the secrets and devious twists, instead it seems they've backed off of it a bit.

    Apart from that I'm having and absolute blast.
     
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  8. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Do you remember the item you grabbed after you killed it? On the other side of the broken bridge? I missed it, remembered it's there but sadly, you can never backtrack there. Was it something good?
     
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  9. Cromwell Arcane

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    Use the shield. run to him, he will take his hand to his sword, you will see a blue light in that moment hit the shield prosthetic. It does so much posture damage that he will die after two (or three times). Good thinng is even if you do it to early you will block his Iai (or whatever these drawing moves are called) but dont do that much posture damage.

    There are other ways to kill him like baiting the move and sidestepping left (not right) or jumping to the left and then gap closing, you could also use shuriken slice (but will probably be out of emblems before hes dead) but with the shield its teh fastest way I found and it makes him exremly easy if you have the timing down (which took me a while).

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    are there two forms of deflect? You can hear if you succesfully deflected an attack since the metallic sound is different but if you do it perfectly you will usually take a large chunk of posture or kill normal mobs outright but if you dont time it perfecly it stilld eflects (sound is there) without much posture damage?
     
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  10. Mojobeard Augur

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    OH MAN I finally beat guillotine gorilla after endlessly dying on the second part yesterday.

    I feel the opposite honestly. There's been so many grapple points that have lead to a completely new side area, and looking around always rewards some extra loot.
     
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  11. CyberWhale Arcane

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    Yeah, this seems a little bit too much. Landing a critical that takes 50% damage would be enough.
     
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  12. Lord Romulus Arcane

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    One minor gripe is that loot is uninteresting, all you get are consumables and gold purses. You never get anything exciting like new spells or equipment like in Souls. I'm just hording pellets, ash, ceramic shards, and sugar.
     
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  13. Child of Malkav Learned

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    He only does those 2 attacks. Basically just time it right. What I did was as soon as I saw the glinting I just double tapped right mouse button and it worked all the time, perfect blocks, massive posture damage, repeat until dead. One of the easiest bosses.
     
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  14. Jinn Arcane

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    Well, it's kind of in the nature of Sekiro not being an RPG with different weapons and armor sets. However, I have gotten pretty excited to find some tucked away chests with health beads in them, as well as those initial item finds that tie into an encounter you had to leave to return to another day, but I understand your gripe.
     
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  15. Lord Romulus Arcane

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    Glowing items really serve more as waypoint markers for where i haven't been to, but otherwise I'm loving the game. The combat system makes every enemy distinct and interesting without being gimmicky. I'll probably finish the game either tonight or tomorrow night assuming any of the later bosses aren't too absurdly difficult.
     
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  16. Child of Malkav Learned

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    Pretty disappointing, the last interaction with the great serpent. I mean, yeah large enemy and all but still maybe something different.
    I understand, it could be viewed like, you have this massive creature threatening you, impending your progress, trying to kill you and finally you ambush it while at its most vulnerable moment with what can be described as a toothpick.
     
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  17. Somberlain Arcane Zionist Agent

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    I like the simple stealth as an option. I use it as much as possible but I also like that you don't have to, at least I can't think of any place after the tutorial where you'd have to use it if you just want to fight head on. We never got a new Tenchu so this is the next best thing for sneaking around in feudal Japan and stabbing people in the back.

    But it also makes me wish I was playing as Ayame :negative:

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Mojobeard Augur

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    I'd love to upgrade my tools at some point, but I didn't do the Souls thing of keeping track of which enemies drop the right materials. :negative: I bet I could have a rocket powered spear that lit enemies on fire and also immediately broke their posture, or some cool shit like that by now.
     
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  19. cvv Arcane Patron

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    What the fuck are you even supposed to do with Orin? Perfect-block her constant flurries of irregular, unreadable attacks? Because if you just whiff a few of those you'll get a huge posture build-up and before it cools down all your progress on HER posture goes down the toilet too.

    Literally what the fuck.
     
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  20. Lord Romulus Arcane

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    Try doing the stomp attack on her when she tries to do a swipe. Divine confetti also allows you to do much more damage against her.
     
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  21. Multidirectional Arcane

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    Stuck fighting the old hag last few days. Finally got deathblow on her yesterday just to find out there's a second, harder phase with whole new full health bar. Great game. Should finish in couple years.
    The other path available to me is that crappy snake section. Really don't feel like doing it just yet so I'm gonna keep dying to old hag. I expect every character in game to be dead by the time I'm done with her.
     
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  22. Curratum Cipher

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    Does anything REALLY bad happen if you bungle NPC questlines from too much dying / rot?
     
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  23. Multidirectional Arcane

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    My guess is it impacts the ending. I never did any of NPC quests in Souls games either so I don't really care. At least quests don't seem as convoluted here, with NPCs actually telling you what they want to be done, so maybe I'll do them in another run when I don't suck anymore.
     
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  24. Curratum Cipher

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    Weird. I hear other people saying that to get the best ending, you need to do stuff that's convoluted and opaque as fuck.
     
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  25. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, that's effective, problem is it only works if she spams her sweep attack. If however the RNG decides to spam her flurry attack there's no chance. Even with perfect blocking your posture damage rises much higher than hers. Stupid fight.

    EDIT: Like right now. First phase she spammed her sweep attack quite often so I deathblowed very quick since this attack is very readable and abusable. Second phase she did it like twice, otherwise she just spammed her twirly attack that you ideally want to run away from. Eventually she got me. This is very RNG based.
     
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