Shadowrun Shadowrun Returns Pre-Release Thread

I'm pretty sure they showed how much ammo was in the current magazine in the video. So you will have to reload you weapons, you'll just have unlimited mags is my guess.

 

That's a different way to do things i guess. Still, i think it will be more user friendly than most crpg editor's and provide a motivation for people to start modding.

Can't wait to get my hands on this.

 

Really? That is weird, give how important gear is in the P&P game, and given how many gear sourcebooks they made (which, by the way, are quite good, I think).

Maybe, but I would still prefer this kind of thing to be automatic. If the designer places all items by had, he is determining beforehand what kind of stuff can or can't happen in a mission, while letting you access a dead man's inventory opens up the possibility of having a less "on rails" game. The designer just sets up the situation, he doesn't make sure it will go this or that way.

 

Exactly, everybody will buy a shitload of ammo.
So unless implementing a weight system, ammo management would only be useful for very specific scenario purpose.
Not uninteresting but low priority IMO.

 

I'm disappointed that they showed the same side-mission three times and barely did anything different each time. "Oh look you can use the strength option to skip this fight! But nah, we're never going to click it." I suspect those "negotiation" options at the end with the corporate mage are Bioware-style flavor. I would hope so since skipping content = boring.

It's concerning how they're three months away from release and don't have decking locked down. "Failure is not an option" indeed but if it ships awful, then what?

 

Only if there's a ready-made blueprint with random equipment. Otherwise the designer still has to choose what equipment each foe is carrying and you can then only loot that.

As for ammunition, it's a shame if it's unlimited. While as a GM, I never bothered to track regular ammo, since it was such a meaningless chore, I did track all speciality ammo. I really, really, hope that speciality ammo is in but in limited quantities and not some fucking retarded perk like in the new XCOM.

 

Sure, but my point is that, if loot dropping is the norm rather than the exception, you open the door for a whole lot of interactions the designer might not thing of in first place. Whereas, if you need to set up a script to create the loot an enemy drops at any point, then he is probably only going to do that when it is important for your module. That is, if you thought in advance of something to do with that piece of equipment.

 

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/now-p...pslot;ShadowrunReturns;ShadowrunReturnsLiveSt

 

Alex, I think you're going to be disappointed by the openness (or lack there of) by this game. It seems much more focused on getting certain things right and not worrying about the rest.

 

Just watched the video, sound like they want to sell dlc of costumes, which is lame, but as long as the game is good.

It seems like they haven't implemented those paths yet, since they specifically followed the exact same place, but it doesn't seem like they would be hard to implement either.

Decker DLC

 

I get the feeling that they wan't to milk this with DLC as much as they can, that is worrisome to say the least.

I hope that the DLC is at least worth while additions instead of "more costumes" "more guns" "more horses".

 

If their games are good in all the importand fronts, and they seem to have their heart in the right place so far, and i'm inclined to forgive the whole DLC thing. Especialy if it's not overpriced.

 

Watched the whole thing yesterday. It was funny to see how sincere they were about the difficult questions viewers kept asking them. No corporate double-speak.
Btw, gamespot covering an indie old-school RPG on their front page? Last week they seriously bashed EA for that broken piece of shit they released recently...gamespot ? Can't be.

 

This coming out on iOS is probably the main reason they are pushing so hard on the DLC front.

 

Damn.

 

Yeah, I'm glad too. For these reasons, and more, as I have very little time to play anything right now, and I wouldn't want to miss out on taking part in the release hype. I'm selfish like that.

 

Unfortunately they have been quite clear that it's their strategy and i dislike that very much too.
It's the only thing that bother me about this game.
I also hope that it will be at least quite big DLC but it's not the feeling i have right now.
Well 15 for the game is damn cheap anyway, especially when you consider the editor and the free Berlin DLC for the backers.

 

Hasn't the in app purchase obstrusiveness of their game Strikefleet Omega been perceived as the worst problem of the game? It was not too bad in Crimson Steam Pirates, though (free chapter 1, Chapter 2 and 3 had to be purchased).

 

Was just reading the Shadowrun almanac when i came upon this section:

I think that pretty much sums up the awesomeness of the setting.

 

Slightly disappointing, but not awful.