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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Wulfstand, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Mystary! Arcane

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    Mid and jungle are probably the easist if they only farm, but they the highest impact on the game by way of ganking, which isn't as easy.
    Top can mostly mind their own business, but they are susceptible to ganks and have a large responsibility to not feed the other top, since they have a tendancy to snowball.
    Ad carry and support are the hardest because there are so many things, and people, to keep track off.
     
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  2. Undead Phoenix Arcane

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    AD Carry is the easiest.

    "Bullshit!" you might cry, "r00fles!" you might say, but there is method to my madness - an AD Carry lanes with a Support. You know who else has support? That's right, people who can't stand on their own two feet without help from another guiding them along like a stumbling child. An AD Carry has the team work for him, an AD Carry has the team protect and shield him - all the Carry has to do is stay safe and deal damage to the best target in range. No thought required! All you need is the skills at popping moles taken from Call of Duty.
     
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  3. Juul Learned

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    I am convinced by UD's flawless logic.
     
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  4. Renegen Arcane

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    Great video.


    And for greater insight, here's the replay.
     
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  5. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Listen to UD. He is wise beyond his years. AD carry cannot stand on its own, but requires support to avoid falling flat on its face. It's not called a "carry" just because it carries its team to victory. It's also a burden the rest of the team must "carry" through the first 20-25 minutes of the game until its scaling kicks in.
     
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  6. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    I just had the best game ever, by the time I'm at my wraiths every one of our lanes died and they all blame me. Then when I get some kills done our top lee complains about KS, and refuses to help me ever again so when we're fighting Darius he just leaves me to die to Darius then comes to pick up the kill. I don't even have anything to say about this, whatever.

    And now, of course, I get to play support, pretty sure it's a lost game, we have Nunu mid and Fiora jungle. Good day...

    And what do you know, it's 8-28 at roughly 15 minutes... So fun playing support, sure I can make plays but what the fuck do they even matter when their team has all the damage in the world while our ad carry managed to get less money than me, what I was too greedy in getting Philo Stone after Sightstone, should have bought remove retard scroll instead?
     
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  7. Jim Cojones Prophet

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    If you are a support player playing at significantly lower Elo than your accurate one, you should be able to dominate bot lane 9 out of 10 games and fulfill an important, or even decisive, role in teamfights using all utility you have in your kit.

    Support's reliance on AD carry for winning the lane is not all that big, although it depends a bit on which champion do you use. Any support has a potential of zoning the shit out of enemy carry, making him afraid to cs and punishing him hard for trying. The post about Soraka killing carries with bananas was not entirely serious but back in the beginning of season 2 it was actually possible for me to win the bot lane with her most of the times simply by spamming autoattacks (cool thing about Soraka is that the attack particle travels so slowly you can attack and get back before you hit enemy so you don't get minion aggro) and E on the carry. I wouldn't try that now, primarily because Soraka is simply weak currently and you can take Lulu or Sona to do the same much more effectively and they have better tools to defend themselves if enemy support is actually competent and tries to punish you for your aggression.

    Yeah, you can get paired with a shit AD carry but if you play really well, you can make enemy carry get so little farm that your partner will have more gold even if he doesn't actively try to hit minions at the proper time and just keeps autoattacking them. And with new support items and bigger passive gold gain, even if you don't get all that much gold from assists early on, you should get enough items to actually be as tanky, if not even tankier, than the supposed tank junglers (who are forced to waste gold on stats like damage versus monsters and lots of regen) allowing for a greater teamfight presence than in the season 2.

    In terms of laning support is the most aggressive role, except sometimes top, and the one who can do more than anyone to win his lane. In top lane, you have opportunity to outplay your opponent and shut him down completely but even if you are much better than enemy, you can get fucked by the jungler. In mid lane, you are not really aggressive and usually farm, waiting for opponent's mistakes. Jungler can expect all his teammates to die before he even hit level 3. AD carry may as well go afk if he gets a stupid support.

    In terms of teamfighting supports have as much presence as any other player. If I initiate with Leona on the AP carry who was out of position, root him and stun, leaving him to die at the hands of our bruisers and then flash back and use ulti to stun the ones who tried to use the situation to dive our carries, I depend on damage coming from the other champions but not any less than they depend on my cc.
     
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  8. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    YOU MEAN YOU CANT CARRY??????
     
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  9. Renegen Arcane

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    I think some people tend to overestimate the incompetence of AD carries. If anyone actually calls it, they're probably good at it, I found it's the 2nd least called role, after support. Additionally, a lot of supports play ad carry and vice versa and so every game you have at least 1 person that's knowledgeable about bot lane. If you pick the right support to synergize with your carry or to counter their comp, your chances of success are very high. And if your team happens to not have any forthcoming ad carries, why not call the role yourself? Usually the best player when it comes to bot lane mechanics should call ad carry and the 2nd best should play support. Pre-game is the time to talk it out with yourselves and I've found true bot lane people to be more flexible than the "mid or feed" type of players. If you don't have 2 players knowledgeable in the lane, then one is enough to salvage the lane from feeding. If you cannot play ad carry and you just default to support, because fuck it, you've lost.
     
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  10. Juul Learned

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    This probably outlines the hardest and most important thing to being a good ADC. It also shows why Ez is so fucking strong with his E, because it allows people to reposition easily, whilst not knowing where they are in the first place.
     
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  11. Stereotypical Villain Arcane

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  12. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    In related news, playing Veigar against retards may lead to hilarious effects :M
     
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  13. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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  14. 1451 Seeker In My Safe Space

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    If I had to counter Veigar I would pick Ryze.
     
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  15. Juul Learned

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    That would probably be a very wise pick.
     
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  16. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    Pick Zed against Veigar, constant manaless harass, get out of his horizon thing if he miscasts it ;)

    Supporting decent ADC's can be really fun sometimes, just seeing every single blitz grab fail to Sivir's spell shield is hilarious, well you know what Ashe can't actually dodge Nami's ult, guess you're dead, 0-3-28... I didn't even die until they 4-manned bot at around 20 minutes, Sivir and Xin did though in a quite crap Xin gank where he got pulled to their turret. Wish I could use Sivir like that, fuck opcrank. Nami's a really good support to play at lower elo's by the way just like Sona but even better, people tend to bunch up so much and especially these forest chocolate trains all get knocked up and probably a few stunned with her Q too.

    I usually start Flask + 4 wards, rush ruby Sightstone because it gives health, then something else, this game I didn't even get an actual GP item, just Locket and then Boots of Mobility and Runic Bulwark. It doesn't seem so necessary anymore to get Philo stone, the Regens are nice and Shurelia's is always nice too but it seems like Locket is actually better to get for the defenses.
     
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  17. Undead Phoenix Arcane

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    Karma always comes back to bite you in the arse when you least expect it. I had a reputation to uphold, I was proud of being able to triumph against superior odds. But now? I'm stronger, better, superior. But at what cost? Will it ever be worth it?

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    Only those without a soul play Teemo, or own a skin for him. A fate worse than permaban.
     
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  18. Erzherzog Magister

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    I cringe when Teemo is on my team and lick my lips when I lane against him. Teemo mid?

    "Oh no I'm blinded! Guess I'll just cast abilities on him until he dies."

    "Oh no, Teemo went invisible! Guess I'll just cast this AoE spell. Oh look. Dead Yordle."

    I see him only as a situational top, but it seems everyone else sees him as a top, mid, adc, and jungle.

    "I'm adc"

    "You're buying AP items though."

    "Yeah"
     
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  19. Berekän #11231 Patron

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    Don't forget Teemo Support
     
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  20. Erzherzog Magister

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    Actually for some reason I wrote jungle instead of support.

    I'm scared I'm giving Teemo players ideas. Soon he'll be declared number 1 jungle by Teemo players and no one else.

    How did such a shitty champ become the face of League anyways?
     
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  21. Renegen Arcane

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    The 10 year old kids that play Teemo identify with him.
     
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  22. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    The story behind it is that whenever we played together, Phoenix would give me a "friendly" honour vote and say "I have honoured you with a Teemo face, the most dire of insults!". When our christmas bonuses came, it coincided with Riot enabling the gifting of champions and skins. So I bought a Teemo skin for Phoenix. The most dire of insults!

    He retaliated by giving me the sakura karma skin. So I can be weaboo in addition to useless.

    On a completely different note, Vi is out. I kinda like the login screen. :codexisfor:

     
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