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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Wulfstand, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Brotherman Bill Arcane

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    Today must be the international "teach your granny with downs syndrome to play dominions day". The players I've played with today and yesterday... Bad doesn't even begin to describe it. They are worse than just right clicking. And I can honestly say that I was not the problem except in one or two of the cases, but in most cases I was carrying rather hard, tho the games were essentially 1v5 so even I will break my back with such odds.
     
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  2. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Enjoy 1200 ELO and being matched with all the terribad first time ranked people, who will drag you back down! :troll:
     
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  3. Azael Magister

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    New jungle is a bit weird for me. S2 I did quite well with tanky junglers like Maokai or Nautilus and had far less success with more assassin type junglers. Now the roles are reversed as I usually do great with Kha'Zix and guys like that and have very little impact on the game with Maokai. Not sure if I like this, especially not doing well with Maokai who is by far my favorite champ.
     
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  4. Stereotypical Villain Arcane

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    Nah. See, the guys who are sub-1200 are there because they impose a vicious cycle upon themselves. Technically speaking somebody who is new to that shit is better than somebody who has played 100+ games and still hasn't managed to drag their asses out of it.
     
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  5. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    I've had far most success with Xin this season, combining assassination ability, sustain in the jungle and a bunch of decent CC. It's almost too easy sometimes. He's one of those champions that make me rage when I have to play ADC, can't get the fucker off it's just HUT HUT HUT knockup charge die.

    A scenario : you're going Viktor vs. Mordekaiser mid, top is Olaf who at the champion select tells we're going to lose vs. Teemo, jungle is Fiddle who doesn't believe in machete and also gets blue invaded and dies because only I care about the early jungle game vs. Kha'zix, bot is Vayne who is decent and Sona who complains and chases Teemo and Khazix blind through the jungle and complains that I don't too vs. MF Taric.

    So in such a scenario I start with Crystal Flask, two different potions and a Faerie Charm because I think I'm going to have to farm with abilities a lot and I can't excpect any ganks from Fiddlesticks who I had on ignore before the game anyway so I can't trust that guy, Kha'Zix on the other hand I believe can gank a lot. Luckily Viktor can freeze minion waves with Gravity Field and can creep from a pretty long distance so I believe I won't still lose mid, just that I can't really help the other lanes. As it turns out Morde still takes a bunch of harass from my lazer shots when his shield is down and when Kha'zix ganks we both die, I probably would even have lived if I played a bit better but anyway I'm convinced Mordekaiser isn't going to impact the game as much as I will.

    Anyway to the scenario : your jungle is useless, their's is fucking Kha'zix a leaping damage assassin, your top desperately needs help and Teemo is getting out of control, your bottom is stable and it's fucking Vayne, so there's hope. Your creeping skills are far superior to your midlane opponents however it being Mordekaiser he discourages leaving the lane pretty strongly. What's the correct course of action here? I went top to help Olaf not fucking die and to kill Teemo, and said you go mid I play top now, also told Fidd to keep mid but he just missed a bunch of CS because without machete he takes fucking forever to kill some frickin' wraiths which I told him to abandon but noo. Also Olaf doesn't want to switch so I return mid feeling a bit stupid. Then later on he starts to cry help from me again, so I go, again asking fucksticks to hold mid but he just farms wraiths and lets hue push the tower.

    I feel like I just should have stayed mid 1v1'ing Mordekaiser and hoping my Viktor skills are hot enough to beat that bastard or alternatively ganked bottom, hoping in TF's that my AOE and Vayne's OP damage is enough to kill their team (which it still was a couple of times), also Olaf would still have his Slow and Tru Damage even with crap items and Fiddle has a bunch of CC as well.
     
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  6. Mystary! Arcane

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    You said you got kill when Kha'Zix came to gank you right? So make him gank you more. By playing aggressive and shoving the lane you help the others by relieving jungle pressure from them.
     
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  7. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    Yeah, at least that would have kept Kha'zix from non-stop farming... What's the next step when top has collapsed and is constantly threatening to go AFK and Fucksticks refuses to help top for some reason, just farms jungle without spirit stone so he's losing to Kha'zix in CS even while he does nothing but farm? Split push or teamfights with 3 completely unreliable teammates? Shouldn't be hard to just CC morde with fiddle but... Ofc I went for the team fight thing which worked out on us losing turrets which I could have p. much always saved.
     
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  8. markec Twitterbot Patron

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    Can someone explain something for a new player. So recently I started playing this game and due having a holiday managed to rather quickly get to lvl 30. I bought the cheapest heroes there are and started playing ranked game. I was last to choose a hero and my team leader told me to pick a tank. The only tank I had was Allistar (which I got for free) but when I choose him everyone started screaming things like noob, moron, troll pick, youll get reported and how he is banned or something and that I should abandon the game for being a idiot but then one guy on my team left before the countdown. So just from curiosity next time I again picked Allistar and got the same reaction. So is there some kind of unofficial list of champions you dont use and I didnt see it?
     
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  9. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Well, for one, you probably want to stick to non-ranked games. People can get really, really butthurt in ranked. :)
    There's a draft pick normal which is pretty much identical to ranked, except you don't get ranking points for it. And ranking points are just there for epeen purposes anyway.

    Alistar is considered a (tanky) support. If your team was looking for a tank, they probably intended for you to go solotop or jungle. Alistar is kind of crap in the new jungle and can't trade favourably top. Are you on EUNE or EUW? You could hook up with some KKKodex BROs. We're pretty easygoing in normal games.
     
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  10. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    I suggest sticking to some one role to see how the game generally goes, say play Ryze mid and say you can't play else. For a while at least.
     
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  11. Renegen Arcane

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    I think Alistar is going to make a comeback. The funny thing is that now that jungle Alistar is non-existant, he doesn't get banned as often anymore and I've learned to hate him as a support. He has probably the best heal of any support, great kill pressure, zoning potential and his ult really shines in small skirmishes, he's unkillable. A lane with Alistar is basically a really safe lane with kill pressure, damn. I even played with him recently supporting a Vayne to 1-0-7. I mean I don't like helping Vaynes, but it felt like it was almost too easy.
     
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  12. Reject_666_6 Arcane

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    Please, no comebacks! The poor bull got nerfed enough already!
     
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  13. Mystary! Arcane

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    6/6/6 with Murderkaiser \m/
     
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  14. markec Twitterbot Patron

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    Im on EUNE, my username is marko2te if anyone wanna add me to a friend list. Im pretty decent with tanks and supports, my favorite characters in that group are Malphite (which gets banned every game), Taric and Leona and those two get pretty much same reception as Allistar, which I find baffling since I personally think they are great champions.


    Well I prefer playing mid with AP characters but it seems everyone wants to play that. In the last ranked game I had team leader with gold rim playing LB mid. I thought he was going to rule the line instead enemy Galio dominated him from the beginning. Im always last in the champion pick so I usually stick playing tank/support, which I dont really mind since I love those classes, but Im monster with Veigar and AP Tristana.


    Thanks for the offer but as Balkanoid I have been playing EUNE which actually explains huge amounts of butthurt I have so far witnessed in this game.
     
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  15. Mystary! Arcane

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    Taric and Leona are awesome, but also considered supports and are usually paired up with the ad carry in botlane. They have poor scalings and the utility they offer stays the same even without farm, so its better to leave the solo lanes to those that benfit most from it.

    EDIT: Added you.
     
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  16. Azael Magister

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    Generally speaking, you probably should avoid ranked until you have a couple of champs that you are comfortable with for each role in the game and one role you feel really comfortable with playing. I'll add you as well, though I was bronze scrub last season so don't take my advice to seriously. :M

    Another tip is to read up on guides from sites like www.solomid.net and check out sites like www.surrenderat20.net and www.reignofgaming.net for some advice from seasoned players. Again, don't take everything at face values. Just because something works at pro level doesn't mean it will work as well at lower levels. The math and theorycraft behind it is (most of the time) fairly sound though.

    EDIT: www.lolking.net and www.championselect.net are two other good sources.
     
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  17. Erzherzog Magister

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    I'm trying to figure out what in the world makes most league players play normal blind pick for anything besides practice. Great place to test champions that you are new to against a totally random lane opponent. Ranked is more fun to play champions that you are good at, so why play your best champion in blind pick? "Because I can't play support/jungle/etc." well now is a great time to learn and blind pick is the perfect setting. "Because I suck as any other champ in this lane." Once again, blind pick is where you learn. "Because I want to win hyuk hyuk" You're an idiot.
     
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  18. Azael Magister

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    markec: I've looked a bit at your match history and runes and such and one thing I can advise you to do is to drop the AP/lvl marks as they give you bad return for your investment. I'd say that you are probably better off chucking them into the rune combiner and hope to get something more useful out of them. For a more generic AP/mage setup I'd recommend magic penetration marks, armor seals, either mr or AP(/lvl) glyphs and AP or MS quintessences.

    Other then that it's hard to comment much without knowing what role you played in the various matches, though it seems you have gone solo top for the most of them(?). In that case I'd say you need to work on your minion killing skills. Gold wins games and you should always aim for as high CS as possible, without losing focus on other objectives of course.
     
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  19. markec Twitterbot Patron

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    When playing AP mid I usually take my time and go to full out attack when I get my ulty, I calculated that full set of instant AP runes give less AP then AP/lvl runes around lvl 8 so in a long run I saw it as a better investment.

    In other games, almost all ranked, I played bot as a support to a ADC, so I leave minions to my partner and get myself philosophers stone to compensate for low gold income.
     
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  20. Erzherzog Magister

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    Yeah, honestly looks like you're not doing too bad at all. You at least got a nice streak of wins.

    As far as Mid and Top go, when to start getting aggressive is dependent on level. For someone like LeBlanc, at level two should be extremely frequent harass, she a champ that should have several kills before level 6. Akali, on the other hand cannot afford to get that aggressive until level 6, since her ult is her whole point of being.

    Anyways the adventures of Topkaiser continue. I normally just fill any vacancy on my team and somehow top lane ended up being the empty slot. I've never done top lane in ranked. (Because I horrible at top lane.) Enemy team counterpicked me with Garen, but I'm kind of curious why Garen is considered a counter. You can harass him all day, he has no poke so his only hope is to rush you and combo his abilities while you probably have a decent shield up, if not just combo him back and you'll win the trade due to that passive. Seriously, Garen is the top counter listed on ChampionSelect and I've absolutely owned him every single time. The only issue I had was constant attention from the mid lane because our Lux was terrible and was getting owned by Swain. (How do you get owned by Swain? he shouldn't have been able to even touch her.) Anyways, an excellent Jungle Naut on our side helped me ult the enemy ADC every teamfight, so we rolled pretty easily after laning was done. I've won 6 of my last 7 ranked matches now, solution seems to be to play fewer ranked matches per day. Nearly reversed my 9 game losing streak that put me into Extreme ELO hell. Almost to 1100, still a long way to go to what my original ELO was, and I've learned so much since then.
     
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  21. Mystary! Arcane

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    Champions dont counter eachother by default, you also need to know how to play them. You have obviously been playing against bad Garens. He should silence and spin in your face as soon as he hits level two and just keep doing that. His passive heals any dmg you manage to get off after the silence. Sooner or later Morde will be out of health and be forced to back. Thats how you win, not by out right killing your opponent.
    But I would imagine bad Garen being hit with one E going, "OMG Morde has range, there is nothing I can do, Im just going sit back and take this harrass from asfar away as possible."
     
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  22. Erzherzog Magister

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    Wouldn't I still fuck with his farm pretty good anyways though? I just don't see how it's a good counterpick, Morde has low cooldowns so he should be able to harass Garen in between trades making it at least an even fight.
     
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