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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Wulfstand, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Well, Nasus is a very high risk/very high reward type of guy. If you don't take him as a final pick in the champ select, odds are you're gonna get fucked because if the enemy team has half a brian cell, they will KNOW that they MUST shut you down at all cost, even if it means picking some bullshit useless guy that wins lane/loses game.

    And even then it is still risky as shit because if the enemy jungler has half a brian cell he will know that he simply must camp your lane.

    As for mid, that can backfire horribly as well because most ap carries will harass the fuck out of you, and kite in lane, too (remember the lane is shorter so you have less chasing potential). It does work wonders against stuff like Kassaderp, however, and I know that from experience.
     
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  2. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Either get your jungler to camp, or really passively. Learn to farm under turret (Q helps here) and focus on CSing. You need to farm for late game. But chances are you just threw the game for your team by making a goddamn retarded pick when you don't know what the enemy top is.

    Yes. Nasus is what you pick when the enemy team already has a Yorick, Singed or Irelia. Or if you're playing blind pick normal and feeling ballsy.
    You could pick him vs malphite, jarvan or cho as well, but only if you've already seen the enemy jungler and you're 100% certain it'll jungle over whoever you're up against top. (Skarner, Trundle, Shaco etc. Things that'd never lane).

    No. There are way, way better picks for mid and he doesn't fare all that well against the traditional mids who couldn't give a rats ass if he reduces their attack speed.
     
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  3. Markman da Blitz master Patron

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    Nasus is farm, farm, farm even more then pwn. As Darth said its high risk-high reward but playing top there are alot of bursters that will pwn your early game. You really start playing from lv 11.
    Try a bit tankier mastery/rune build and go with the flask+potions at start to buy yourself some time and sustain.
    Philo, Glacial Shroud, Phage, Sheen is what I build at start with Teleport/Ghost. Safe build = just pump HP and rush Sunfire cape and all the cool thing after.
    I tried jungling with him a few games but he felt meh, hes like Trundle but weaker in jungle and at early levels Q is not that spammable as one might think.
     
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  4. ohWOW Sucking on dicks and being proud of it Dumbfuck Queued

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    I stopped playing Nasus in solo queue, after I had realised that 90% junglers and mids I'm matched with can't fucking understand I need their help early. They simply don't care when I get buttfucked 4 times in a row by an enemy top/jungle/mid gank and later cry report nasus for feed.
     
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  5. Markman da Blitz master Patron

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    Heh, wanted to play Nasus and went ahead and played 2 games trolling normals. Both went well from if we talk about the farming. First game top vs Katarina of all champs. Lane phase was ok, she couldnt kill me early cause of the sustain but we got roflstomped cause our EZ fed 0-9 or something and quit the game. Mid, bot and jungle were so behind. /ff
    Second game i got matched vs Nasus, mirror match that went a bit into my favor cause our Warwick came twice for a gank. I found out theres a nifty item that combines Glacial and Sheen of all things. Like made for Nasus thats not willing to spend 4k on a Triforce. Whooped ass that game, 8-3-10 or something. These were pretty much easy lanes. Second game i started with Faerie charm and Rejuvenation bead + 3hp. Farmed 340 gold, tele back to tower at minute 4 or something with a Philo.
     
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  6. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    Ok, perhaps it's just better to stick to tops I even know rather than a weird coinflip one. I like the idea of a hard scaling top carry though.

    Whoever talked about Sword of the Divine on Xin, thanks. So you didn't build Warmogs? Tough luck because here goes all your health in three hits.

    (Yay, Nasus vs. Akali a resounding success)
     
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  7. ohWOW Sucking on dicks and being proud of it Dumbfuck Queued

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    5 solo queue games in a fucking row, 1/83274 vi top or 1/8823478 malzahar mid, try to fucking stay calm as a support where there's nothing to support before 10th minute.

    the cantina theme didn't help
     
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  8. Mystary! Arcane

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    I played a match and my team mates were bad :x
     
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  9. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    A few days ago, I had 2 back-to-back games in ranked where our mid was syndra and our jungle was AP yi. And it was different people playing them in the two games. You better believe I :x
     
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  10. Markman da Blitz master Patron

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    LOL of the day. I towerdived and killed Riven with Nasus. Yes with Nasus. Noone escapes Wither, not even that bunnyhopping whore.
     
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  11. Erzherzog Magister

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    Syndra actually works when youve got dumbasses that dont realize she is in fact an early game champ. That still requires the right pick and that theyre sufficiently dumb though. Is she the worst champ in the game? Or is it heimer? Karma/
     
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  12. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Not when said dumbass is the syndra player
    At the moment, Karma has the lowest winrate of any champion, sitting at 39% of all ranked games in which she is picked.
    Syndra USED to be the second-worst champion (and worst AP mid) at 41.8%, but a recent surge of bad veigars (due to some pro apparently roflstomping with a warmog veigar build and a bunch of scrubs deciding they could emulate it), veigar actually managed to drop to 41.6%, dethroning Syndra as the queen of shitty mids. Heimer is actually doing quite well at a 45.7% winrate. While it's still decidedly below average, it's still better than Leblanc (44.3%), Nasus (44.39%), Gragas (44.28%), Tryndamere (43.7%) and Galio (45.5%. The AD Caster Mid FOTM has not been kind to him).


    On the other side of the coin, Amumu is currently top win% of 55.91%, as well as being the second-most banned (66.4% of all games) champion, superceded only by Kha'Zix (71.94% banrate). Interestingly, Kha'Zix'es winrate is only 48.2%.
    Other statistically Stronk champions are Miss Fortune (55.83% winrate), Singed (55.76%), Rumble (55.56%), Taric (55.25%), Xin (54.1%) and TF (54.88%).
     
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  13. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    I suppose ease of play factors heavily into it if all levels of play are considered. Not many are easier than Amumu.
     
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  14. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    I suspect amumu will drop off heavily after the next patch when his ult gets nerfed so people can autoattack while rooted by it. At the moment, it's for most intents and purposes a huge AoE stun instead of root.



    ATM, my ban priorities when I'm captain (in order) are:

    Malphite
    Amumu
    Lee Sin
    Shen
    Evelynn
    Shaco


    I don't bother banning blitz, since I main leona anyway. If my teammates have any ban requests, I'll work them in so long as mumu, malph, lee and shen are banned. If someone on my team wants to play yi, I make sure to ban him.
     
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  15. ohWOW Sucking on dicks and being proud of it Dumbfuck Queued

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    I hate the fact that Leona and Taric surpass every other support champion as fuck.
     
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    Taric is extremely strong in the current meta mainly because of his W aura. With very few AP junglers (mumu being banned all the time and fiddle not being too popular) and AD mids being FOTM, the +armor aura is a godsend. But there are several supports that will easily match or outperform taric/leona.

    The second and third highest win% on supports are actually on Janna and Sona. Sona for the low skill cap that makes it very hard to perform suboptimally with her and janna because she's ridiculously strong and comboes well with MF, Graves, Ez, Cait and other poke-oriented carries. Incidentially, the 4 carries I just listed are also the 4 most frequently picked AD Carries in the last 2 weeks.

    Another reason taric/leona (and nunu) are so popular at the moment is because the way S3 changed the income for supports around. Supports generally have more items now, which means that it's easier for them to actually function as main tanks. that makes them nearly mandatory if your top and jungle pick something squishy or something without proper initiation. What people seem to have forgotten is good ol' alistar. he combines the peeling ability of janna with the tankiness of leona and is a ridiculously solid pick. The main reason you don't see him more is because a lot of people cannot into his WQ combo.

    Finally, speaking as a taric/leona main I'll let you in on a secret. I hate, hate, HATE nidalee as my opposing support. If my ADC hasn't got a spammable dash, I'm constantly faced with the painful choice of taking nidalees spears to the face and having too low HP to initiate or watching my ADC get killed because fuckers cannot into dodging. On top of that, her heal is one of the stronkest in the game (good base heal and +attack speed for when the ADCs are trading). Pair her up with an ez/mf/cait for long range poke and shit all over your lane.
     
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  17. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    What? Where'd you read that?

    Very common btw 'cept for the Shaco, since people don't seem to know how to play him. I have the same but instead of Shen I tend to ban Jax and I always ban Blitz first because he causes me emotional distress.


    I wish they changed Yi so that this AP nonesense would never happen again but he'd be a more viable AD champion.

    The combo isn't even completely necessary to master to function as an effective bodyguard. Also it's always nice to have a heal, the main reason I prefer Taric over Leona. You just know your carry is going to eat random damage and you're kinda screwed doing anything as Leona when your carry is 50% health from level 1.

    Try Thresh, he has a pretty decent capability to CC lock the cat and his damage is pretty strong, in addition you get to shield your carry and blink them to you. Out of all the supports I'm finding by far the most success with Thresh, perhaps because his ability to make plays is similar to Blitz's in addition to his strong retard saving powers. The only bad Thresh games I've had when I got these suicidal carries for whom my Q+AA harass translates to flash all-in into minions. The ability to make stuff happen with the lantern is amazing, like say some crazy-ass lane ganks.
     
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  18. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    The mumu nerf was discussed in a red post on the NA forums a couple of weeks ago where they talked about clarifying the exact effects of various forms of CC. I'd dig it up if I wasn't currently sitting in a train, reading the dex on a phone.

    I'm not really a fan of thresh for the same reasons I don't like nami. He requires that his teammates understand how his abilities work or they'll not utilize them at all. Plus the Q on both champions has an annoyingly slow animation. :3
     
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  19. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    That's only his lantern and thus far it seems it's easy enough to explain and understand. What also helps Thresh over Nami is that he's much stronger.

    The Q animation is so slow though it's a gamble if that shit hits, predicting their movement for such a long animation is just a guess. However I find that missing some Q's isn't the end of the world for Thresh because he isn't as mana hungry as Nami (or Blitz).

    I have been seeing these Zyra supports, she's the only champion often played as support I don't have. What's her point? I haven't been greatly impressed thus far, I usually just consume her plants for free gold.
     
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    Long range snare and (for a support) fairly high damage. She requires the ADC to be fairly competent however, as her peeling, buffing and safeguarding is pretty low. She scales pretty well into the mid/lategame however, effectively becoming an extra AP carry for her team.
     
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  21. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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  22. ohWOW Sucking on dicks and being proud of it Dumbfuck Queued

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    Katarina facechecks bushes, blames me for not placing a wards, while 10 wards are on.

    Fuck this solo queues.
     
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  23. Markman da Blitz master Patron

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    HP bloat meta gets a bit boring. Every fucker and his mother doing Warmogs. I won a game today with Panth we were losing hard just cause me and jungler went more tanky than usual. Moar bloated than the other team. On the other team even the AP carry had like 3,5k hp. zzzz
    Not amused. :decline:
     
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    Blade of the ruined king, kog'maw, elise, vayne, liandri's torment.



    In s2, people were bright enough to realize if the enemy team had the classic HP stackers on their team (mundo, singed and so forth), you got %hp damage. In s3, they're too busy masturbating with black cleaver to remember.

    In fact, BotRK should be pretty decent on vayne. Costs 100gp less than a bloodthirster, has similar stats (the %hp dmg and life steal should make up for the difference on a partially stacked bloodthister early and surpass a fully stacked bloodthirster late if the enemy gets warmogs). Also has a neat miniature ghost+slow. BotRK, IE, Phantom Dancer, Ruanaans hurricane, ga, 'zerkerboots +furor should be a pretty solid combo for shredding bruisers. Could swap ruanaans for a statikk shiv for more movespeed and crit.
     
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    Ruunan's seems like a poor choice for Vayne as she doesn't have any on-hit steroid that scales on hitting multiple targets, unlike Kog, Varus, MF or even Caitlyn. Also, if you are going the Ruunan's route, how about Mallet as defensive item since the Hurricane applies all on-hit effects in full? Potentially slowing three people on the enemy team could be useful. I agree though, BotRK should be a solid item on a lot of AD carries if you're up against health stackers. The sustain from that item is mad as well. Both Lee Sin and Jax can solo baron at lvl 13 with lantern and BotrK.
     
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