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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Wulfstand, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    That's the highest resolution RIOT makes them in as far as I'm aware. You'll have to scale it up yourself.

    Also, on the subject of Karma, this is her "Classic" Classic skin that those of us who already have her will get:
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    Undead Phoenix will no longer get to tell me that this dress may have been impractical over and over again.
     
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  2. Renegen Arcane

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    Singed is getting nerfed in the PBE, it might go live. He has the 2nd or 3rd highest win rate this month and is apprently banned in high elo. About fucking time. So get your freelo before it's too late.
     
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  4. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    Whoa, LoL gets it's first black champion.

    I play only Graves because of this problem and build Mullet on him, also Quinn because demacia but I can only get solid results with Graves.
     
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  5. Renegen Arcane

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    But that's the thing, the perception of Singed hasn't caught up to the reality of what he can do. For the past month worldwide, he has a 60% win rate against Chogah, Shen, Malphite, Renekton, 57%+ versus Jayce, Zed, Garen, Kha-Zix, Jax. And he's one of the few tops that I can say "hyper carries". The nerfs aren't even that bad, it should only make him slightly more kitable.
     
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  6. Hellraiser Arcane

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    He's hardly a hypercarry, his scaling isn't all that good. It's all the utility he gives to the team and his ability to chase carries, he's more versatile than most tops. People forget about CC, being able to initiate or peel being important when they keep getting raped by the usual League of Assasins picks like Kat, Akali, Kassadin, Talon, Kha'zix etc. He's also a solid laner although his laning kind of sucks until he gets catalyst. He won't kill your entire team alone unless your team sucks, singed is a teamplayer :obviously:.

    EDIT: So I just log in and what do I see?

    "You have just been moved to Bronze I"

    :rage:

    Fucking GRUNKERs decay. Need to get back to silver.
     
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  7. Brotherman Bill Arcane

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    haha wait, they decay even at that level? Yet another reason to stay out of this nu-elo shit
     
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  8. Berekän #11231 Patron

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    Wait, what? I thought you couldn't get in a lower league than your current one, what happened with that?
     
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  9. Hellraiser Arcane

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    Bullshit elo decay happened.

    Now I'm trying to carry retards. Won only one game so far because I picked morgana mid against diana, diana was retarded and thought she would win if not for one gank. Yeah, good luck with that when I'm always at full hp or dodge/shield your skills. League of Assassins rhymes with League of Dumbasses, or at least it should.
     
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  10. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    The best place to carry complete ass clowns from is the jungle, just pick a strong gank jungler like Xin, Nautilus or Jarman. Mind you some people can still lose their darius lane after you gave them first blood at level 2 but the other guys shouldn't be all that great either so it's always worth a shot.

    Like say. This last game :
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    We had a Lee Sin jungle who seemed oddly competent for this elo (5 rapid mid ganks and in 3 of them Vladiqueer died even with his trollpool, after that since Darius was losing to Cho with red pot opening we started helping him, basically Lee fed me and helped Darius not collapse), well he had some potato net that DC's every couple of minutes... Say we would have had a suck jungler. In that case top would have collapsed, even while I can hold my own I bet 3-man ganks would have forced me at the very least to lose tower, and finally as well as bot did having your bruiser and jungler weak would mean that the fed carry is first to die. And if bot was losing for some reason Lee would still have had time to help them, and as their mid was dead there's no reason why I wouldn't also have gone to help (but of course you often get mids who never roam despite playing roam-friendly champions). Whereas I think it's harder to carry from top or mid actually since by default you aren't a wild card who can go anywhere, you can't simply waste perfectly good CS for an odd chance of a kill.

    Previously I thought it's best to pick mid because a collapsing mid affects a huge portion of the map, but that's a worst case scenario and in my mind a competent jungler affects the game the most. After that though - still prefer mid because it's the second easiest place to make some plays from.

    (Yeah I definately have found my Karthus replacement, that is a main mid champion who I can confidently fall back to when I don't really know what to pick.)
     
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  11. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Me and Undead Phoenix had the most amazink game earlier. Xin Zhao with boots of mobility + black cleaver and karma with boots of mobility and whatever else he got. We just kept running between lanes with mantra'ed laz0r and boots keeping us sped up, diving and killing everything and yelling "THE RAPE TRAIN IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH BRAKES!"
     
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  13. Hellraiser Arcane

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    And then you get ahri mid who, despite her getting 2 ganks against veigar, builds no HP and gets gibbed before you come out of the bush to gank for the third time. Or the ashe bot who doesn't activate Q when you come to gank and manages to give FB, despite being under her tower and having blitz as her support while they have varus+taric. How the fuck do you die under your own tower and don't get a kill when you have blitz?

    Then you get games where you do jack shit because all lanes are doing so well your ganks merely seal the deal anyway. But facts are you could just farm the jungle the whole game and you would still win and the enemy would still feed in all lanes. Although I am still surprised nobody dodged yesterday when they saw first pick teemo top and ap yi mid (with ignite plus barrier or exhaust, no flash). Facts are jungling is and always will be a gamble in solo queue. You're better off trying to grab someone who wins lanes and teamfights easily rather than a jungler, Malphite, Morgana, Kennen and the like work well. Singed or Cho are good as well although they don't have a "I win teamfight now" button, you need a bit more effort in their case. For one you're ensuring at least one lane is won and the jungler has one less lane to worry about (junglers are usually competent) so the probability of other lanes fucking up decreases.

    In other news I have 6400 IP, I need a new champion. Thinking of Swain as his bulkiness and CC seem good to carry idiots. Although a new solid top pick would be welcome as well.
     
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  14. Azael Magister

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    Play Swain top. Problem solved.
     
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  15. Hellraiser Arcane

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    I prefer bruisers/ad caster top, unless it's singed or cho. They're a bit better in the CC department than lazerhawk man.

    In other news Leona OP:

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    Got a quadra kill somehow and thus an ace for our team in the last teamfight. Peeled like a boss and our vayne survived the combined forces of Darius, Kassadin and MF despite being near dead. Nobody died on our team. Have no idea how I ks'ed everyone during that. Would be hilarious if it was a penta.

    Works solid for bot lane in solo QQ, won all of the lanes so far even if one looked lost when we gave double to cait first (vayne ran from lulu like an idiot for 5 seconds when we needed just one hit to murder the stunned and exhausted cait) only problem so far was idiots mid, top and in the jungle. So what that I initiate and catch their carry out of position apparently our rengar runs away only to get back 15 second later when their entire team is there to help their carry. Fucking league of Assassins means idiots don't know they should wait for Leona to initiate for them or counter the enemy initiation.
     
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  16. Mystary! Arcane

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    People will derp, there is no avoiding that. You did what you could, you ganked and fed your lanes. Mission accomplished. Now do it in the next game and the game after that too and you will eventually win more. Not everyone is going to be like that Ahri, and you might even get that Veigar on your team so your ganks will be even more fruitful.
     
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  17. Hellraiser Arcane

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    True, but I rather just focus on farming and avoiding ganks. Its frustrating to see a good gank opportunity wasted because kassadin or whoever is mid is sleeping despite you pinging.
     
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  18. Renegen Arcane

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    For anyone that bought Thresh, he is apparently OP as hell. EDward from Gambit used him to great effect in the past few weeks and the results speak for themselves. In fact at the IEM so far he's been the single most contested (picked/banned) champion in the whole game and has a 7-1 record so far. Enjoy your freelo.
     
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    That's still a win, don't see a problem here.




    I disagree, duo laning is the gamble pick because you often end up playing 1v2 which doesn't leave you with many options. Terrible supports are common, so are terrible ADC's. With a jungler, however, if your jungle gameplay is up to speed you can simply pick what can be won and win that, it's probable that your team isn't consistently so much worse than the enemy team that you can't tip the scales in most of your games. I have 60-70% win rates with my main junglers (Xin, Jarman, Nautilus) - gank junglers with good initiation powers. Say. Anyone can just farm and dick around in their lane (which often doesn't seem to be the case), it shouldn't be too complicated, but a jungler has to take risks, ward, gank, get shit done that by default doesn't keep you in the game and can actually get you killed. It seems to me that there are plenty of players who can at least to some degree play mid and top, enough at least that with some advantage they can win the lane, but terrible junglers seem to be the rule more than an exception, I mean that both your and their jungler just randomly wander around blindly taking camps and doing shoddy ganks only when they have farmed everything in sight, often having picked junglers that are simply crap and don't even fit the team composition.

    Maybe it's just my perception but tank initiator junglers seem to be the type of champions that can do the most in a game.



    Huh? Junglers are usually buffoons who pick Shyvana and scamper around farming golems or something. Anyway of course it's good to have one lane won, however that often happens by itself because people make random all-ins and one of them dies. With a jungler you can make winning lanes stronger, win an even lane, try to save failing lanes and fuck the other jungler over. The key here is how early you can start doing shit, usually a mid shouldn't start to roam very early because their wave clearing abilities aren't so great early on and probably they won't have enough movement speed.

    I'm just saying... Farming every minion in a wave and doing some harass, sure, that's good, but that doesn't quite have the impact in gold or morale that level 2 murder gank did.
     
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  20. Hellraiser Arcane

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    Rage of the day, our blitz grabs quinn in our tribush, he's nearly dead but flashes over the wall to dragon. Blitz fails his flash over but I as ashe succeed in flashing over the wall. However I somehow aggro drake, quinn gets FB despite the fact I was at full hp and had barrier.

    :rage:

    Blitz decides to troll for the rest of the game and gets into a flamewar with our jungle xin.
     
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  21. Mystary! Arcane

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    Anyone that can gank will have large impact, grab teleport on Top/Mid and teleport bot whenever the enemy is low works just as well.
     
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    Hoy, my first ever pentakill, with Quinn. The enemy was aspeed only Twitch, suicide soraka, triforce rush wukong, Galio and Amumu. At one point they came one by one to our bush to die ("They're all low health, I'll finish them off!"), that was a quadra. Strange how nobody tries to kill the melee bird who has nothing but damage (except twitch and soraka who didn't even dent my health with all the lifesteal). 25/4/14, a shame it was not a ranked game.

    (also funny how they all built Warmogs after I built my BotKR)
     
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  23. Mystary! Arcane

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    Pics or it didn't happen.
     
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