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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Wulfstand, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Dem leagues man. I was at 85 lp. Lost 2, won 6. now I'm at 92lp. Sux to get -15 for loss and +2 for win. I can haz elo back now RIOT pls?

    In silver 1, there's 2 people with lower pick order on my team who lolking is claiming are sittign in Gold IV.
     
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  2. Azael Magister

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    Well, that's what I meant to. I think the time penalty will be the same as for dodging any other normal game.
     
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  3. Azael Magister

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    I guess that's the system's way of telling you that you are higher than you belong. :M
     
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  4. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    Codex 2012 Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Torment: Tides of Numenera Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
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  5. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Dunno man. I'm getting matched against Gold III's and Gold IV's, winning games and getting +2 LP per win. Just did it again. Lolking says 4 people in my last game were Gold IV's. If I'm getting matched with them and winning, how is my Silv I GRUNKER rating too high? they're not Gold V's, so it can't be because they scraped into gold and went on a losing spee.

    RIOTs league implementation makes no sense man.

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    There we go again. Started a game, I'm captain. some guy called "TheWarmaker" is third pick with a Gold III/1662 Lolking rating. "Mr Robotnic" is 4th pick with a Gold IV/1609 Lolking rating. Last pick is "xa0ckz" with Gold V/1546. enemy team captain is "asg ql" - gold III/1695. RIOT pls.
     
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  6. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    Agreed, I don't understand it at all. If the people I win aren't worth giving points over, why match me against them in the first place?

    I bought Elise, took her to jungle, 14/5/11. Ranged stun, long-ass gap closer, damage from just levels, sustain in the jungle both health and manawise. Her utility isn't that great but she sure seems like a strong ganker without any clearing or sustain issues.

    Is Cockmaw's early game actually as weak as commonly believed, I have tried him a couple of times and he seems to be at least more of an asshole than Ashe and such, bullying them around. Probably some Cuntlyn or some other bullshit laner can make his life hell, still seems like he's a huge late game monster with a relatively safe early game. Is this true?
     
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  7. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Depends on the enemy jungler and kogs support. compared to things with dashes and blinks, he has no way of surviving a gank without peeling.
     
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  8. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    That's true of course (well he has an AOE slow at least) but bot lane isn't a high-priority gank target for most junglers. Let's say the support is generally Lulu. I imagine there shouldn't be all that much problems? I haven't dared try him in ranked yet because I previously believed him to be a weak laner.

    I don't find the ultimate all that amazing though, yeah it has a long ass range but I don't know how to hit it when nothing else is happening, seems like you can always dodge it if there's nothing else coming at you.
     
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  9. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    It's fun against draven though. Ult where his axe is going to land. :3
     
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  10. Humppaleka Arbiter

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    Kog early game is pretty horrible in my opinion, haven't played that much but for example Ashe can easily outharass me. Of course it depends on my support, which are usually horrendous but Kog really isn't a 1v1 carry vs carry champion. W and E give some safe farm but if the enemy AD and support play their cards right that's the only farm you'll get for a while.

    Just my 2 (kind of worthless) cents.
     
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  11. trais Arcane Patron

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    AD Kog is pretty weak laner because he's quite horrible without his W. So if you have enemies that know they should disengage when you pop W and go after you when it ends then you need to play very carefully. Against stupid opponents you can go super aggressive and it's fine.

    Regarding ult: in lane use it when the enemy wants to last hit. If you time it right then even if they built some attack speed you should be able to hit them. Other than that it's most useful in sieges where people are clumped together, for checking bushes and when chasing/being chased.
     
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  12. Renegen Arcane

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    I had a chance to play in normals Olaf jungle for the first time since his nerf. I used to love the crazy viking until he fell to the 2nd lowest win rate in the league. The enemy jungler is Nocturne, lower elo than me so meh. So all my lanes start off a bit questionably, bot lane which is Tristana/Taric get pushed to their tower immediately. I make a beeline straight from red to their jungle and then their tribush and gank from behind, double kill for me. Well the snowball is taken care of, so much for Olaf's weakness at ganking. Nocturne never really had a chance to gank because all the lanes were pushed, he did very little the whole game. I buy Boots of Mobility straight up and then proceed mostly to camp top and help Akali against Lee Sin. I give her a few kills and she proceeds to snowball out of control and carry the game.

    In teamfights, Olaf felt as good as ever. They had this little bitch ad Lulu mid who was like 400 elo higher than everyone else and never died, that is until I pop my ult and E her to death. That E has to be the most satisfying skill in the whole game because it's on such a short cooldown, you and your enemy know there's plenty more where that came from, and it's true damage, fuck yo build! Olaf still felt useful, of course the problem more than ever is getting him snowballed. And he still has major weaknesses, lacklustre ganks and not that great initiation. I was a bit lucky that game because we had the dive team of doom consisting of Akali, Zed, Olaf. Akali during pre-game chat jokingly told us she was going to be "tank Akali" and good thing she did, because it was her that initiated every teamfight, Olaf can't do that.

    Glad I did my part to get the poor fellow his win rate up, but I imagine the risk of using him is even greater now if he doesn't get fed. So what's your strategy for getting carry junglers snowballed?
     
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  13. Suicidal Arcane

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    Had a funny game yesterday:

    Enemy Ezreal was super fed, rest of enemy team were stronger than us as well. They easily win teamfights, like 2 for 4, 2 for 5, etc. They initiate on us with Malph's ult while we were standing on a ward, ace us while losing 2 people. They kill our open inhib and go to our nexus turrets with their minions. Instead of simply finishing the game (all of us were 20-30 secs away from reviving), they start spamming /laugh and porting to base.

    20 minutes later

    Everyone has full builds, but now we are winning teamfights while losing no more than 3 people. Enemy ezreal proceeds to bitch about how LoL is unbalanced and tanks carry the game and claims that he is such a pro yet lost due to shitty balance. His build was one of the weirdest I've ever seen - Yomumu's Blade, Manamune, Banshee's veil, BotRK and Iceborn Gauntlet. He did very little damage late game - the only people he could kill on our team were the ones who had almost no defense/MR. I've checked his match history and he is 7-15 with Ezreal, builds this shit every game, always has a good KDA, but often loses.
     
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  14. Azael Magister

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    Not closing out games as soon as you are able to p. much always comes back to bite you in the ass. Don't toy with your food.
     
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  15. Azael Magister

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    Vlad is weak early game and he is weak against bruisers with good gap closers and tons of damage (and some cc) especially. Now, who do you often meet top? I'm a terrible Vlad player myself, so take what I say with a pound of salt, but top lane isn't the best place for him currently unless you already know that you have a favorable match-up. Mid is a shorter lane, which means that the pool works better as an escape there. Try him there instead, as long as you're not facing Fiddle, Swain or Malz.
     
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  16. Lupus Liturgist

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    Do you keep your E stacks maxed all the time? Vlad's damage output is dependent on having it fully stacked throughout teamfights or skirmishes. Consider starting with ward or two and shitload of HP pots - that way you can outsustain most of aggresive top laners til you max your Q and farm some gold.
    Also no wonder you lost your lane before if you were matched against Garen. Whenever I see Vlad is picked up by enemy team I pick Garen to counter him. Then I will just get comfortable and laugh maniacally because Vlad will be either CS starved or dead all the time til the end of laning phase.
     
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  17. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    Isn't it better to buy cloth + 5 against ad bruisers, your sustain isn't as infinite as you'd think at the start. Also if you're top I'd probably rush... Warmogs instead of Rylais. What a boring idea.
     
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  18. Azael Magister

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    Garen will rape you for most of the laning phase since you have no hard cc and since his Q takes away both your damage and your escape. I don't think that's a winnable match-up, assuming equal summoner skill. Rengar isn't that bad, unless you eat double Q's to the face early.

    9*pots+2*wards is probably the best starting option regardless of what you face in lane and where you go.

    EDIT: Cloth+5 is not a bad idea either, since you absolutely must get that Zhonya's.
     
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  19. Hellraiser Arcane

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    Vlad is pretty meh, his ult is good and he's got a very annoying escape not to mention that sustain. But what's the point? Go mid? Most people pick either FotM Lux mid or go League of Assassins (mostly the latter), occasionally you see Annie/Malz/Ryze/Ahri or some other mage with decent CC or something. At the end of the day you can farm lane all day but they'll probably go gank bot/top and get fed or do a lot more in teamfights than you. Go top? Oh sure, you have sustain. Now tell me which top pick can't murder you at level 1 or can't kill you and doesn't benefit more from a farm lane.

    Top is spin to win lane most of the time, singed, jayce, renekton and nid in other cases usually. Occasionally if someone gets a stroke and doesn't ban him you see malphite. Sometimes you get Akali, Kha'Zix or another assassin. Or teemo if you're in tinfoil elo and people think a situational counterpick is good if you don't know who goes top and want to go top anyway.

    Really I just don't see the point. Nowadays you either pick somebody who can murder the enemy carries effectively (League of Assassins) or somebody who has decent/strong burst and some CC thus providing utility (Lux, Annie etc.). Vlad is outclassed in both roles. He can't win against the usual top picks and he's a subpar pick for mid. He can't snowball as easily as others nor does he bring anything to the table other than his ult if he only has farm and no kills.
     
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  20. Demnogonis Saastuttaja Magister

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    A great day of rage
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    fuck

    So today I try to get some of that back. First game malphite not banned, enemies pick him, well ok np UM DON'T PICK ASHE WITHOUT FLASH. NO FLASH ASHE VS. MALPHITE YOU'RE REALLY GOING WITH THIS AND I GET TO SUPPORT YOU?
    GANGPLANK JUNGLE OH GOD THEY GOT VI TOO?
    PANTHEON TOP VS. MALPHITE
    OH LORD I CAN ONLY GO LIKE TARIC OR ALISTAR VS. ALL THAT DIVE WELL OF COURSE THEIR BOT IS A POKE LANE WITH SONA
    YOU BUILD ONLY ATTACK SPEED AND TWO VAMPIRIC SCEPTERS WHAT THE FUCK ASHE
    GP YOU ONLY BUILD ATTACK SPEED TOO WHAT THE FUCK

    Good thing that people are trying purposely to annoy the fuck out of me too such as everybody thinking my phone is some public verbal diarrhea deposit. So I got some wins still, but I notice I'm getting unreasonably pissed off at things like Quinn's Karthus school AA animation, Zed's absurdly slow energy regeneration, Veigar's slow ass projectiles and so on so maybe I better quit for a while.

    Oh after the first disastrous game today I got to wait for the next one forever because I kept getting this Karma top player in my team somebody would always dodge. Another guy would always play either Lux support or mid, and that one I got to support Lux me (well at least it's Demacian bot lane), we would be 2v1 vs. Kennen because they had that "I MID" problem where Taric and... somebody were mid. So this guy who plays Lux, apparently, would proceed to do nothing except sit in bush and I'm still trying to kill Kennen but the little rat got that speedy gonzales thing going on, and eventually Hecarim would charge in our lane and... Well it was a game won anyway, friggin' trololo stuff again but at least I learned that Quinn can do fuck all versus divers, even ashe can point-blank stun them but Quinn just bounces a short distance away and slows them an insignificant amount. There's no way you can ever get Hecarim off you as Quinn for example. Back to Graves I guess, better build Warmogs on him too I suppose.
     
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    I like her and I still have a positive Quinn-rate but she really is kind of the Master Yi of adc champions.
     
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  22. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I constantly get these streaks. Win 6-12 in a row, lose 6-12 in a row. What gives? I find it hard to believe that I just magically do good on some days and bad on others.
     
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  24. Renegen Arcane

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    Regarding Vlad, from watching wingsofdeathx just now win top vs Rengar as Vlad, rush Spirit of the Spectral Wraith.
     
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