Fallout So, Fallout 1....I'm raging so hard now.

Read my edited post, I clarified my thoughts a bit. I don't have a problem with hotkeys but I would like the mouse use to be a little more streamlined, like with NWN2's right-click list or ToEE's radial menu. Fallout has something similar admittedly, but you can't really use skills from it.

Yes, let's compare the UI, usability and technology between a game released in 1997, and one in development in 2012. That's very reasonable.

 

Maybe Infinitron only has one hand? That could really justify his argument for an unintuitive UI...

 

Too bad that Wasteland 2 interface will fail to provide the primary function of a GuI that is looking good.

ToEEs radial menu is pretty non-ergonomical from what I remember.

 

It would look much worse, though, just to please one Infinitron who can't use keyboard shortcuts like every computer-literate person does.

 

Or we could compare UI of Skyrim and Fallout.

 

Fallout: Infinitron Edition

 

More like Fallout: PopamoleDumbfuck Edition
Maybe this game would've sold a few million copies like FO3 did..
Wow...the vats in the backgrnd look mighty pretty. Almost IE-like...

 

And you guys claim we're TEH TROLLS

Your inability to grasp Infinitron's points result in you making a jab at something unrelated to what he was saying

 

I can't believe I had to waste so many hours on this thread.

 

But did you really HAVE to?

 

Calm down buddy, I get what he's saying. I just seize on any opportunity to create an exaggerated joke image.

 

Well, it was my duty to defend the Truth.

 

OK, OK

The truth that Fallout has the best combat of any RPG save JA2. Oh man.

 

This tread is like an invasion of a body snatchers. To this day I was unaware that Codex Staff Members have been compromised. Once again decline and shit taste jeopardize the balance

 

"Decline" is fast becoming a stamp you put on someone that disagrees with you, no matter what other old classics they like and regard as they should. Next someone is going to say that game classic connousiers like Sceptic or Crooked Bee are decliners because they dislike ToEE or some bullshit.

OR PERHAPS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT, DUN DUN DUN

 

Yeah, we only had to wait 13 years, and until Thursday, for games to finally build on what Fallout did.

 

Uh-huh

 

The decline of decline.

 

I'll never label someone an agent of the decline for disliking a game, no matter how classic, regardless of whether or not I agree with their opinion. It's only when they begin endorsing decline-related feature sets or games that are objectively infested with the decline that my finger begins to hover over the "SUMMON THE THOUGHT POLICE" button.

About half of my ignored-by list is populated by people who got super-mad that I ridiculed their totally-not-decline-no-sir popamole shooter or pay-to-win online game.

 

This thread is making me reconsider my assumption that the Codex is Wasteland 2's target audience. Perhaps it's not.

This is a half-assed and lazy deflection. You can like any game you want. I'm sure Todd Howard loves many classic RPGs from when he was younger. Decline isn't about whether you've played or like classics, it's about fundamental beliefs in the direction and future of game design, beliefs such as "combat should be faster!" or "if I can't figure out this UI it must suck, let's give it bigger buttons and context-sensitivity!".

Ugh. This thread. I'm just going to assume you guys are being hipsters and trying too hard, "too cool to like Fallout", forgive you, and move on. It's fairly typical that the loudest voices of the decline here are Codex staff, though. I am honestly kind of disappointed. Not surprised, which in itself is sad, but disappointed.

PS: Fallout's UI isn't very good though. But if you think the solution is "streamline it!", then you're probably on the wrong part of the internet. It's problem is not about intuitiveness anyway.

 

Brother None confirmed for No Mutants Allowed-tier agent of the incline.

 

What could be the philosopher's stone that would do that...