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Editorial Someone Is Bored With BioWare

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by VentilatorOfDoom, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff

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    <p><a href="http://pc.gamezone.com/editorials/item/why_im_bored_with_bioware/" target="_blank">No really, it's true.</a></p>
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    <p>So, starting with the first point, lack of innovation, I feel that Bioware haven&acute;t really added anything new in the areas that require it most, namely gameplay and characterization. Yes, Mass Effect had an interesting conversation mechanic, and that counts for something, but many Bioware titles have been recycled versions of older titles. Combat is still semi turn-based, your character is still locked into one of a few set roles (usually based around combat, magic, or a mix of the two) and the actual underlying story is the same for every title (under-respected newcomer overcomes insurmountable odds from all sides to save the world/universe from incredible peril). Characters are the same, too; you always have a learned older sidekick (Sagacious Zu,&nbsp; Samara), a snarky young upstart (Alistair, Carth Onasi), a brutal fighter (Grunt, Black Whirlwind, Zalbaar), and a mysterious dark character (Canderous Ordo, Morrigan). The list goes on, and the characters are almost interchangeable from game to game.</p>
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    <p>Mass Effect 2 - the semi-turnbased game.</p>
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    <p>Spotted at: <a href="http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/98193-why-iam-bored-with-bioware.html">GB</a></p>
     
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  2. Felix Arcane

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    Mass Effect 2
    semi-turnbased

    wat
     
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  3. circ Arcane

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    O SHIT! IT'S LIKE SOMEONE READ THE CODEX AND MADE AN ARTICLE. OR FINALLY USED HIS OR HER BA-RAIN.
     
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  4. gothfox Scholar

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    Given the whole semi-turnbased angle, I'd say that is unlikely.
     
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  5. Konjad High on potatoes Patron

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    Wait... there is someone who dislikes Bioware games except codex?
     
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  6. LittleJoe Arbiter

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    I'm not going to argue over a point of semantics:

    Semi-turn based, real time with paused.

    Who cares?
     
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  7. Felix Arcane

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    You'd be surprised.
     
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  8. Der_Unbekannte Educated

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    I agree on parts of this text but still, the author is an idiot.

    How should they "move with the times and add new ideas to the mix" when nobody else does it.
    RPGs everywhere are shit. Repetion of the same old "OH NOZ SAVE TEH WORLD" story in the same old Tolkien fantasy set.
    Even the great Mass Effect just shot Tolkien to space.
    Asari - Elves
    Reaper - Sauron
    Geht - Orks
    Krogans - Dwarfes
    Humans - Humans

    You can blame Bioware to not be innovativ. But you can't blame them, to not "move with the times"
     
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  9. Andyman Messiah Mr. Ed-ucated

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    Well, I guess someone outside the Codex finally figured it out. About fucking time, I say. :roll:
     
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  10. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Korgarous Wrexwind.
     
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  11. commie The Last Marxist Patron

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    Where's Drog? Probably frothing at the mouth with rage!
     
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  12. Genma:TheDestroyer Arcane

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    I think some of these are screwed up. Carth fits cleanly into 'learned older side-kick', whiny bitch personality or not. And since when did Zalbaar fit into 'brutal fighter'? Hanharr, yes, but he was Obsidian. Strictly Bioware I'd fit Canderous into 'brutal fighter' and HK-47 into 'mysterious dark character'. Unless you had high skills in certain areas you couldn't even learn half of HK's past.
     
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  13. commie The Last Marxist Patron

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    They are a bit screwed up though but the comparison is valid. I remember playing Jade Empire and ME with the sense that I've seen everyone of these character templates in KOTOR before.
     
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  14. Ausir Arcane

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    They are. They both first appeared in KotOR 1.
     
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  15. Lesifoere Liturgist

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    Canderous and HK are certainly Bioware.
     
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  17. commie The Last Marxist Patron

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    Fuck yeah, a brain fart on my part. I just remembered Canderous was a Mandalorian and got him and that Mandalore fucker mixed up. Also remembered putting together HK-47 in KOTOR II and forgot him in the first one.

    Actually it says a lot about how memorable it all was for me back in 2004 and 2005 when I can't remember KOTOR 1 or 2, but can remember most of the shit of Fallout, BG, Ultima VII etc.
     
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  18. SuicideBunny (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻

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    which would be correct considering they are the same char.
     
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  19. Ruprekt Scholar

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    The KoTR characters and look are Bioware's. In as much as it doesn't look like the prequel movies (which it does) it's their own creation.

    The comic books which preceed KoTR in lore are very different to regular star wars; emphasising the fantasy aspect of star wars over the sci fi.
     
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  20. Tycn Savant

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    Bioware are in the business of storytelling. They use strong gameplay archetypes and each game tells a story the length of a TV series season - better than 99% of TV series out there, as well.
    If you’re playing Bioware games for anything other than a compelling story with great characters and solid - albeit not revolutionary - gameplay (although let’s not forget who did shooter RPG first - thank you, Mass Effect), then you’re playing for the wrong reasons.
     
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  21. Micmu Magister

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    Bioware are in business of mass entertainment and their "stories" *are* on the same level as 99% of the pop TV series out there. Nothing really that compelling...
    For example DA's story is an atrocious piece of shit on a level of the worst TV series imaginable.
     
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  22. Tical Arcane

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    Bioware are in the business of sucking cock and letting their fans eat their buttholes out.
     
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    as much as i hate da, that's not fair. there is much much much much worse shit on tv, and my imagination can top that in terms of shittines easily.
     
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  24. denizsi Arcane

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    There is a sci-fi aspect to Star Wars?

    LOL
     
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  25. Azrael the cat Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    This. Sad but true.
     
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