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Speculation: Obsidian skyrim clone in development

Would you like to see Obsidian attempt an Elder Scrolls clone


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Father Foreskin

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microsoft doesn't make any games, they're a publisher

Microsoft makes games. They have acquired multiple game studios and keep doing so. For example Rare is a subsidiary fully owned by Microsoft. No matter what label they sell their games with, Sea of Thieves was made by Microsoft, by people working for Bill Gates. Rare is just a logo put on some Microsoft products, just like Obsidian will be.
 

Vibalist

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Even if all of you think Skyrim is a shit game, it's not going to be easy to make something that surpasses it.
As much as I dislike it myself, it has an undeniable quality that keeps people playing it seven years after it was released. Maybe that quality is merely that it's moddable, but why shouldn't that count? In a gaming market where most games are cinematic and linear and allow for little to no costumization, that's actually a great quality to have. It's the same quality that gave old Total War games longevity, whereas the new ones are only popular for a year or so.

Obsidian will never replicate the success of Skyrim. Not because they aren't providers of quality content, but because Skyrim already exists. It's like with World of Warcraft (another game which many will argue sucks, but is still undeniably successful). Companies have been trying for 15 years to make a 'WoW-killer' and no one has succeeded. If you want to surpass your competitor you need to make something new and original. Something that seperates itself from the gold standard rather than replicating it.
 

Urthor

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
I think we do have ot question just how moddable UE4 is. Like it's a massive hunk of expensive middleware, not a developer owned engine, creating assets for it from scratch?

It remains to be seen how much modding will be possible with these Obsidian engines
 

M. AQVILA

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Skyrim with a beyond shitty setting. Why would someone even play that?

People who don't prioritize the setting or the writing in their games?

There's nothing good about Skyrim if you take away the general TES setting and lore. The quests suck, the combat isn't much better, the characters don't have much going for them either and it's dumbed down beyond belief. If you add the horrible setting, lore and magic system of PoE then it will be 100x worse than Skyrim.
 

TemplarGR

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There's nothing good about Skyrim if you take away the general TES setting and lore. The quests suck, the combat isn't much better, the characters don't have much going for them either and it's dumbed down beyond belief. If you add the horrible setting, lore and magic system of PoE then it will be 100x worse than Skyrim.

This is like, your opinion man....

Radiant quests suck but those are filler anyway, the main, faction, and hold quests aren't THAT bad, combat is fun if you play non-melee characters and if you mix and create hybrid builds, characters are serviceable and it is streamlined for people who come home after a hard day at work conquering programming problems and fucking their secretary and just want 30 minutes of fun. Not everyone is a jobless sperg.
 

M. AQVILA

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There's nothing good about Skyrim if you take away the general TES setting and lore. The quests suck, the combat isn't much better, the characters don't have much going for them either and it's dumbed down beyond belief. If you add the horrible setting, lore and magic system of PoE then it will be 100x worse than Skyrim.

This is like, your opinion man....

Radiant quests suck but those are filler anyway, the main, faction, and hold quests aren't THAT bad, combat is fun if you play non-melee characters and if you mix and create hybrid builds, characters are serviceable and it is streamlined for people who come home after a hard day at work conquering programming problems and fucking their secretary and just want 30 minutes of fun. Not everyone is a jobless sperg.

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HeatEXTEND

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What do I gain from watching a Tarkovsky film instead of a Michael Bay film? What do I gain from listening to Wagner instead of radio pop? What do I gain from attending the national art gallery instead of looking at paintings on offer down at the local flea market? Slightly hyperbolic, but you should get the idea.

Just pretentiousness and a retarded sense of superiority.

Also, you are comparing apples to oranges. Video games are NOT art. Sorry. They are entertainment. Different thing.

Just because you are so insecure about your hobby that you have to place some superior meaning to it to justify the stupendous waste of time, does not mean it is art. Nope.

"You have given me the background, but I have no real data as yet. I must look around for a while, smell out the situation for myself, talk to your engineers, perhaps have a few drinks with them, and get acquainted. That is possible, is it not? Then in a few days, maybe, we'll know where we stand."

King had no alternative but to agree.

"And it is well that your young men do not know what I am here for. Suppose I am your old friend, a visiting physicist, eh?"

"Why, yes—of course. I can see to it that the idea gets around. But say—" King was reminded again of something that had bothered him from the time Silard had first suggested Lentz's name—"may I ask a personal question?"

The merry eyes were undisturbed.

"Go ahead."

"I can't help but be surprised that one man should attain eminence in two such widely differing fields as psychology and mathematics. And right now I'm perfectly convinced of your ability to pass yourself off as a physicist. I don't understand it."

The smile was more amused, without being in the least patronizing, nor offensive. "Same subject, symbology. You are a specialist; it would not necessarily come to your attention."

"I still don't follow you."

"No? Man lives in a world of ideas. Any phenomenon is so complex that he cannot possibly grasp the whole of it. He abstracts certain characteristics of a given phenomenon as an idea, then represents that idea as a symbol, be it a word or a mathematical sign. Human reaction is almost entirely reaction to symbols, and only negligibly to phenomena. As a matter of fact," he continued, removing the cigarette holder from his mouth and settling into his subject, "it can be demonstrated that the human mind can think only in terms of symbols.

"When we think, we let symbols operate on other symbols in certain, set fashions—rules of logic, or rules of mathematics. If the symbols have been abstracted so that they are structurally similar to the phenomena they stand for, and if the symbol operations are similar in structure and order to the operations of phenomena in the real world, we think sanely. If our logic-mathematics, or our word-symbols, have been poorly chosen, we do not think sanely.

"In mathematical physics you are concerned with making your symbology fit physical phenomena. In psychiatry I am concerned with precisely the same thing, except that I am more immediately concerned with the man who does the thinking than with the phenomena he is thinking about. But the same subject, always the same subject."
Good old Heinlein saves the day.

Also, video games are art in the first place where run-of-the-mill commercials could be considered art, shit nomer, let's ignore. So, "What is an art?", great question asshole; it's a completely subjective term. The end.

Except it's not subjective because I'm right:
intent > Money alone doesn't count, there has to be an idea that doesn't boil down to "more money"
skill > If a 6 year old can do it, it ain't art.

subjective my ass
wew
 

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