Stalker - The Good, The Bad, & The Ukranian

[Sarvis]

(despite that the checkpoint in Cordon is controlled by STALKERs).

Every time I leave something in control of Stalkers, I come back to find the Stalkers dead and bandits shooting at me.

 

[Ladonna]

Yesterday I was gonna go back to Cordon to finish some missions so I was fighting my way through the garbage. If you enter the Garbage from Cordon, there's a small bandit camp to the right of you a bit ahead. I was coming from the bar, and I saw that there were bandits at the camp so I figured I'd clear them out.
Cleared them out, was looting the bodies... 1 bandit spawn right beside me. Shoot him in the face, continue looting. 2 new bandits spawn and I saw screw this and just run away.

I cleared this camp a number of times....I regret to say that after fighting the bandit hordes back many times (From both this camp and the ambush camp with the wrecked Helo, buses, etc) a mass of pseudo dogs have taken over both camps. When bandits spawn in these locations, they quickly become dogfood.

 

[User was nabbed fit]

Haha. That's probably pretty cool to watch.

 

[Sarvis]

Sweet, Sweet justice. Dogfood style!

Too bad you have to deal with the dogs then though... heh.

 

[Jasede]

Why do people complain? I have had little to no trouble avoiding most bandits, or just running past them, making use of cover. Try not to play Stalker like an ego-shooter when moving from A to B, saves ammunition, time and patience.

 

[Claw]

Damn, I hope Stalker is only half as fun as this thread. If it's any better I might starve in front of my PC.

 

[suibhne]

The respawn rates are trivially easy to mod yourself even if you don't want to install other mods. I changed things around to make them more "realistic", and that removed the single biggest irritation in the game for me.

I hear that the next patch will fix this respawning bug anyway, tho. It apparently occurs mostly in the Garbage and in one other spot, I can't remember where.

 

[Claw]

Well, I finally got Stalker. Damn customs.

As has become usual, I've spent the last two hours reading about and downloading mods. I miss the times when I'd just install a game and play.
I'm uncertain if I should try the game without mods first or install some "fixes" right away.

Anyway, I wonder if anyone else encountered this strange bug: My desktop icon for Stalker uses a Windows placeholder, as stalker.ico apparently doesn't contain any icons. So I use the setup icon now.


PS: Will modders never leard to name their readmes properly? It's so simple. You're releasing a UT map called DM-Loser? Then DM-Loser.txt is a perfectly good name for your readme file. Readme.txt on the other hand is certain to cause some kind of conflict, you genius. The same goes for all mods.

PPS: Can someone explain to me the reason for this:

Search for the following line in the rows of “fsgame.ltx”:
$game_data$ = false| true| $fs_root$| gamedata\
and edit it to:
$game_data$ = true| true| $fs_root$| gamedata\

A few mods mention it, most don't. I wonder if it's necessary for mods to work at all? I'll test that theory in a minute, but if that isn't it, I'm curious what it's for.

 

[Kingston]

I don't think it really requires mods at the first playthrough.

 

[Ladonna]

I am only playing with the better stealth mod. Though it can make things a little too easy at night.

Oh, and the game ran ultra smooth for me until Pripyat, its turned into an occasional slideshow now. Think I might wait for the patch and restart.

 

[kingcomrade]

You're wrong. The sky has no color.

Doesn't that mean that nothing has color? Just like with the sky, it's all about which light frequencies are absorbed, reflected, or refracted.

 

[suibhne]

PPS: Can someone explain to me the reason for this:

Search for the following line in the rows of “fsgame.ltx”:
$game_data$ = false| true| $fs_root$| gamedata\
and edit it to:
$game_data$ = true| true| $fs_root$| gamedata\

A few mods mention it, most don't. I wonder if it's necessary for mods to work at all? I'll test that theory in a minute, but if that isn't it, I'm curious what it's for.

Afaik this is necessary in order for the game to use the modded data before unpacking and using its own data (within compressed archives).

 

[JrK]

Just to debunk the common faulty idea that the sky is blue due to refraction, I'm here to say that it's due to Rayleigh scattering.

 

[kingcomrade]

Actually a blue sky is caused by global warming.

 

[Balor]

Nae, it's a sure sight of global COLDING! (Mwhahaha!)
Global warming would occur if the sky turn red.

 

[Kingston]

Some modders have found old AI code and turned it on... apparently all the people in the beginning camp buggered off to stalk something and that guy you get your first quest from runs straight to the baddies even if you haven't talked to him. Sounds interesting.

 

[kingcomrade]

Nae, it's a sure sight of global COLDING! (Mwhahaha!)
Global warming would occur if the sky turn red.

If I had a button that could kill your for your blasphemy I would push it. When we're talking about the fate of the world I could do no less.

 

[Balor]

Nae, it's a sure sight of global COLDING! (Mwhahaha!)
Global warming would occur if the sky turn red.

If I had a button that could kill your for your blasphemy I would push it. When we're talking about the fate of the world I could do no less.

Do you really wanna make the world a better place for humans?
Drink some poison.

 

[Jim Kata]

If I had a button that turned kingcomrade off, I would push it. But only if I beat his ukranian girlfriend he has mentioned 32 times to it.

 

[Sarvis]

I'd say just ignore him, but I've been doing that and he just keeps posting more... maybe someone should write a KC auto-responder to keep him happy.

 

[Romanian_Dude2005]

And for fuck sake's change your avatar KC, that's one fucking ugly son of a bicth.

 

[Jim Kata]

I'd say just ignore him, but I've been doing that and he just keeps posting more... maybe someone should write a KC auto-responder to keep him happy.

Well, I originally wrote kingcomrade to keep volourn occupied and things went horribly wrong, as you can see. I hate to think what the next horrow I inflict on the interwebs could be.

 

[kingcomrade]

guys u hurt my feelings

 

[Fez]

Some modders have found old AI code and turned it on... apparently all the people in the beginning camp buggered off to stalk something and that guy you get your first quest from runs straight to the baddies even if you haven't talked to him. Sounds interesting.

That does sound promising. They are doing well considering there isn't an official SDK released for modders yet. They do seem to be making progress at tinkering with and tearing into the code.

 

[Blacklung]

By the way Sarvis, we don't gang up on you for your dumbfuck tag, merely for your dumbfuck comments. You complained that nothing gave you warnings about the radiation. I told you all the obvious places where it was mentioned and you brush it all off saying you don't read stuff like that. Do you need a fucking memo posted infront of your eyeballs then, because I can't really think of how much more obvious the warning would need to be to placate you and your whining. You are right, it wasn't a big issue, but you made it one by bringing it up as one of your main points.

About the bandit respawning though, you are correct. Those fuckers just don't want to go away or learn their lesson. If I saw someone in an exoskeleton wading through my AK wielding buddies with a fucking knife while taking about a thousand body shots, I'd run the fuck away, not keep shooting and running towards him. Apparently though, the second patch is suppose to address this problem and tone down the respawning time quite a bit. \

Yes I noticed that Pripyat and the outside area of Chernobyl are just fucking unplayable as well, even with every setting put to the lowest. My computer can handle the poly count so it must be a problem with their coding and the engine. God only knows why they designed their own engine. They could have easily used something like the Unreal 2l engine to do the big outside areas with detailed buildings...even vehicles. It would run faster and look just as nice. It would be just as moddable. And, it would give people someway to make new maps. Oh well...maybe they'll fix their shit within the next five years.