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Vapourware Star Citizen - Only people with too much money can become StarCitizens! WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Morgoth, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Even if the allegations are true, the employees are still some whiney bitches ("female dog" in their glassdoor reports).
    Also reporting the CEO's spending habits to "Executive staff" isn't the business of a "Game Developer", especially if it's certainly hearsay since a developer probably doesn't get insight into the leasing contracts. Working 80 hours under the alleged conditions for fear of losing your job on a sinking ship isn't really a sign of maturity, especially for a - presumably - young person without a mortgage and kids. The "founders" doing drugs is a bit more worrisome, though maybe it's just smoking weed, which is now about as legals as it gets. But CR disappearing for weeks without notice, if true, seems to be a clear indication, that not only his employees, but he himself can't cope with the expectations he has.
     
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  2. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    Roberts in the letter invited the Escapist to a tour around the offices... and then "fuck that!", I'll sue them! :)

    But how come none of you armchair lawyers motherfuckers that are blinded by hate towards Roberts do not the discuss the points brought up by the letter that threatens with lawsuit?

    And that other fucker says that he did not check his SPAM folder when he was already in contact with them and he was told to wait for a response. What a kindergarten attitude/response.
    Also the facts that CIG has already staff over 40 and 2 blacks which can be easily confirmed or not.

    This whole thing smells fishy.
    And the timing is just perfect. Right before citizenconshit. :)
     
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  3. Xenich Cipher

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    Well, there is if you want to eventually open the game to base assaults and the like. Having a consistent 3d universe in that respect makes sense.
     
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  4. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    A 3D interior of a spaceship also makes sense in VR. And it's not like they didn't have 3D cockpits 20 years ago already. This attention to detail is certainly the least problem the project has. A real cockpit is certainly incline over the "we skip cockpits altogether" in later space sims.
     
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  5. Whiran Magister

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    To put this into perspective I know many people who did not back Star Citizen when it was in Kickstarter but backed it later. By many I mean around a dozen of my gamer friends. Interestingly every single one of them with one exception was / is an EVE Online player.

    When I popped by EVE Online briefly after Star Citizen became a thing everyone I spoke to brought up Star Citizen and how amazing it was going to be. That's probably another 20 - 30 people right there and by in large they all bought into Star Citizen after the Kickstarter.

    I'm playing Elite: Dangerous at the moment and I frequent a few Twitch casters who play it as well. Their chats are constantly full of people talking about Star Citizen and how they backed it.

    I can believe the figure for Star Citizen in terms of sales. A lot of people started with giving them the lowest value and then, over time, would up it.

    There are an awful lot of whales who bought into Star Citizen to the tune of a couple of thousand of dollars. We know about people who have put in over $20,000 USD but the number of people who have dropped 1,000+ USD is remarkable to me.

    If you go to the "after market" or I suppose private sales for Star Citizen ships you will find that it is very active. Look at Blaine's sale of his ships. He sold his spaceships for over ~2k USD very quickly.

    Finally after all this speculation about Star Citizen hit the media channels the funding for Star Citizen peaked at almost $340k on Sep 30, 2015. On Oct 1, 2014 a further ~$200k was given. Since the story broke Star Citizen has made almost a million dollars. Think about that for a moment. If I were to guess the people who gave this money were already donators who wanted to show support to Chris Roberts.
     
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  6. :Flash: Arcane

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    That was not only said by former employees, it was also said by Richard Garriot in one of those interviews when they were propping up each others kickstarters, and it was meant positively by Garriot. He was contrasting the different management attitudes at Origin, and compared his own laissez-faire attitude, with Roberts' attitude, which he called "management by decree". He said he once heard Roberts saying to a graphic artist "No! Make that pixel blue!".
     
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  7. Perkel Arcane

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    Deflamation ? that is hard to prove in court but...
    Escapist wrote two stupid things:

    1) There's a climate of sexual and racial harassment at CiG.
    2) Embezzlement and fraud have and are taking place at CiG.

    Which both are criminal cases. And they did this on "he said, she said" and if CiG is right they beaten out their most important proof CiG IDs which those workers were using in company (CiG claims they don't use IDs in all of their offices).

    So yeah. This isn't "well CiG is shit, don't fund it and they all will run away with your money"

    Unless they have actually solid proof of above and CiG will pursue case Escapist is fucked and can prepare to increase SC funding...
     
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  8. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    Anyone here that really thinks C. Roberts is a conman bent to steal the Star Citizen money is just plain retarded. Or are too young to know how the world really works and spew bullshit just to look cool on the monitor screen.
    For him to steal this money would be suicide on professional and social level.
    Furthermore, he does not have to steal because he was already rich in the first place.

    Maybe he is indeed obsessed with detail and thus this reverberates in mismanagement of money, or he shouts when he loses his shit because he has to put up with beings from retardo land.
    If Star Citizen will fail is because he's too ambitious for his own sake.
    And also becasue he has that shrew called Sandi by his side! (whaa... I am such a badass! I call that bitch a shrew on the internet!)
     
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  9. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    This!

    I'm sure that SC has development problems, but people saying that CR has ran off with the money, or spending it for houses, trips to Bora Bora and so on are seriously retarded and can't think for themselves. I guess the Codexian negativity can get to a person so deeply that s/he can't think straight and always assume the worst, even it is unrealistic.

    That's why I think that these "sources" Derek Smart and the Escapist are quoting are just bullshit. And CIG is not even issuing company IDs, which presumably proved that the sources really work there? What a fuckup!

    As you said, if the project failes, it will fail because of bad management, but not because of spending the money on Ferraries and drugs.

    On another note, it is funny that suddenly people are giving 5 starts for CIG on glassdoor, the even out the badcones given by the Escapist "sources". Just like with metacritic, Jesus, the videogame industry should really grow up.
     
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  10. Dexter Arcane

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    Anyone here that thinks Star Citizen is going to come out any time soon and is going to be the best game ever is beyond fucking retarded, you're in good company with J_C there. I mean, I got the skepticism that this is all a scam to rip off people in late 2012 when there were the first questionable things about it or in 2013 (you can dig for my posts and arguments with Blaine when he was still married to Chris Roberts and eating all his shit like it was ambrosia), but it's almost 2016 and it's not healthy to be this fucking delusional at this point.
     
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  11. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    Everybody is aware that the game might not come out in a years, don't come with this "you are in good company" bullshit. Nobody said otherwise. The retarded thing is to think that Chris ran off with the money or spent it on booze and hookers.
     
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  12. justincz Educated

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    "chris ran off with the money" it doesnt work like that, how dumb would that be? but he as CEO and his partners can pick any salary they want, and live like a king for years. buy buttload from expense accounts etc.
    CR would not have gotten 80+ mil if he didnt add all the insane stretch goals. he thought he could just hire som CRY experts and figure out all the problems later on and if the game fails atleast he had a great job at the top while it lasts.
    and seriously corporate "conspiracys" from managment are not at all uncommon.. i deal with it all the time as i rent out 60.000 square feet of property. try to find an honest carpenter to build your house for that matter, they will pick your pocket and you wont even know what happened.
     
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  13. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Space hookers?

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  15. Morkar illiterate

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    I'm sure he doesn't hesitate to pay himself good money for the project but thinking that he isn't intending to bring out the game is rediculous. It's more his big attention for detail and I guess some employers have a hard time getting told how to do their work in such an ordered specific way. It's mentioned often enough from multiple sources that CR has a very strong vision of how everything should be look like and be done and that he's very uhm passionate about it. Personally I think that's a good thing. It's not that the guy has no proven track record of excellent games with for the time insane production values. That's just how he does things and I don't believe he would settle with anything less than at least state of the art presentation. That's where the project can fail but not him just spending founders money for his private luxury and drugs.
     
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  16. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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    I don't know what the fuck his salary is now and neither others who like to eat shit about embezzlement.
    But I bet if/when the shit hits the fan, he will be the first to work with no salary because he's passionate about this project.
     
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  17. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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  18. Grimlorn Arcane

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    Yeah but the guy had a card and pay stubs. So while there may have been some confusion, they have to determine the pay stubs aren't authentic as well before flipping out.
     
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  19. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    Sure. Let's see how will this turn out.
     
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  20. Chamezero Guest

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    It's like everyone involved is constantly fucking up, a sight to behold.
     
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  21. Night Goat The Immovable Autism Patron No Fun Allowed

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    So how much did you guys blow on Star Citizen?
     
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  22. Grotesque ±¼ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Patron

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  23. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    35, but I sold my account after seeing the game not progressing as it should.
     
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  24. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    So our resident "Cuck for blowhards" aka J_C has now shifted to white knight Chris Roberts from Tim Schafer?

    :troll:
     
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  25. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    More like, J_C continues to use his brain instead of bashing everyone, accusing him scamming and purposfully ruining their own carrier.
     
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