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Star Control: Origins - Star Control reboot from Stardock

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Dr Tomo, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. Alex betthurt

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    I, for one, am a fan of big and well done UIs. Especially if they are made to either look like something from the gameworld or if they are at least thematically appropriate. I loved the interface in Might and Magic IV/V, I loved the inventory interface for Ultima 7. I even played Doom and Daggerfall with the full UI bar and would find it weird people choose to play without those.
     
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  2. Mr. Magniloquent Learned

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    This game looks great. I don't follow this much, so perhaps I am being deceived by glossy previews, but I hope not. I have only played Star Control II: Ur-Quan Masters, which was in 2006 when it became freeware. I had a great time playing it, and poured much of that summer into it. So far this new game looks like they are staying quite faithful, but with modern capabilities. I am optimistic.
     
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  3. Frogboy Stardock Developer

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    Regarding what Stardock acquired:

    https://www.trademarkia.com/star-control-75095591.html

    So yes, Stardock wanted to acquire, did acquire and now owns the Star Control trademark. This trademark has nothing to do with the aliens or lore or ships from SC2 (which I think has been discussed here many times over the years). The whole point was to acquire the Star Control IP (namely the trademark but Stardock also got the registered copyright to Star Control 3 -- weeee) in order to reboot the franchise. The hope was also that someday, the developers of SC2 would one day return and make a new game continuing their story either via them licensing the trademark OR calling it something like Ur-Quan Masters II. Unfortunately they chose...a different path that put it in conflict with Stardock.

    Edit: BTW there's over 10 pages of trademarks for the word "Human"

    https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=Human
     
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  4. cpmartins Cipher

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    Why are they spending money on a lawsuit instead of making a game is beyond me. Make a good Space RPG and I'll buy it. It's not like we're swimming in them right now.
     
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  5. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Because Wardell is an asshat who would viciously attack anyone who tries to say "no" to him. In this, he is no different to Musk, Gates or Zuckerberg. Arrogant asshats.
     
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  6. Yosharian Savant

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    Um. What?
     
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  7. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    https://www.stardock.com/games/arti...gins-prelude-9-of-13-the-lore-of-star-control

     
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  8. Dexter Arcane

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    Because he and his team have been working on this game for 5 years with the Star Control IP before the Activision buttboys decided they want to contest said rights and make their own Star Control game? What do you suppose him to do, roll over and acquiesce to their every demand? Stop developing the game?
     
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  9. Elestan Educated

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    I think there are a few things worth noting:

    First, Reiche and Ford cut themselves off from Activision before this all started, so Activision doesn't have any role in their planned game, and they're having to defend the lawsuit personally.

    Second, the only rights they are contesting are based on their copyright on the original games, which their original contract with Accolade said they got to keep.

    Third, they've never claimed to be making a new Star Control game. What they seem to want to do is to make a game that continues the story from SC2. Since stories, as creative works, are governed by copyrights, this doesn't seem improper.

    Finally, they've never demanded that Stardock not release its game, or that it not call it "Star Control". Their demands have only been that Stardock not use any of their copyrighted story elements in it, which again seems like it's within their rights.

    As the Lawful Masses video indicated, this is a case where the copyright and the trademark to a property have been separated, and both parties want to continue it. The legal squabbles are about trying to figure out the bounds of what their respective IP rights control.
     
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  10. Dreed Bremsstrahlunged Patron

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  11. Life of the Party Magister

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  12. Mr. Magniloquent Learned

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    The art in this trailer is very inconsistent. The mixture of mid-grade 2D art and the stylized low-grade 3D don't blend very well, and it gives the objects a sense of overlapping, rather than being integrated as a whole. The quality of the art itself also varies. Some of the alien interaction screens and planet panoramas look excellent, while some of the ships and celestial objects looks like a flash game. Nothing that can't be polished out, I'd wager. I just hope they can homogenize the art style by release. Still looks like fun to play.
     
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  13. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Talking about art...: https://www.stardock.com/games/arti...gins-prelude-10-of-13-the-art-of-star-control

     
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  14. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Preview seems to complain that the game is too low budget or too much like Star Control or something: https://www.pcgamesn.com/star-control-origins/star-control-origins-story

     
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  15. Zombra Arcane Patron

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    Using the Kardashians as your primary cultural touchstone, even as a joke, does not bode well for your odds of gaining my sympathy.
     
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  16. someone else Arcane Patron

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    Prefer this Cardassian
     
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  17. tindrli Arcane

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    god damn i wanted to like this game.. i really do. but i just cant imagine terrain of this game with this art style.. i just cant. .. what a fuck is happening with games and their designers...

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Speaking of environment...: https://www.stardock.com/games/arti...ude-11-of-13-the-environments-of-star-control

     
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  19. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  20. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Critters: https://www.stardock.com/games/arti...prelude-12-of-13-the-critters-of-star-control

    I guess this is the last prelude post before the release.

     
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  21. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Arcane

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    And this is his beta impressions video:
     
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  22. lophiaspis Savant

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    So much work and drama to rehash such a fundamentally flawed and mediocre game design. A twee sci-fi CYOA interspersed with some poorly conceived minigames that quickly wear out their welcome, is that really the best way to simulate the adventures of a starship captain? - I have to grind ANOTHER dumb frogger clone to refuel my ship? Meh, how overrated.
     
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  23. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Here goes another series of posts: https://www.stardock.com/games/article/490985/

    Well as far as Steam top sellers list goes, it's currently at ~200.
     
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  24. lophiaspis Savant

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    :lol: Did they really think they are competing with Mass Effect? With something that looks like a Flash game? Oh boy...
     
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  25. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Arcane

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    Number 58 on GOG.

    I think they have made a mistake on not giving the game to youtubers early.
    There's not a single recent gameplay video to be found.
     
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