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Strategical RPG's

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Fango, Mar 24, 2005.

  1. Fango Novice

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    Hi there! I've been watching this forum on and off for about 2 years, recently registered and finally decided to post!

    Well - here goes,

    One of my favorite things about RPG's is the strategical side-- Knowing your opponent's strengths and weaknesses, knowing your character, knowing your party, knowing which spells to cast and when, knowing which feats to use and when, knowing when to lure or to charge... etc. I've been playing NWN for almost 3 years now, in a server where you can't get anywhere without tactical-strategical party-play. Anyone has to know his role otherwise the party would do poorly. Healers were almost mandatory (and therefore common), and in most cases they had the most exciting role - keepnig everyone alive!

    (Soloing was rather impossible except for the first 2 levels... you would need to have a special-build for soloing, and even then, you would go pretty slowly)

    Well, anyway, lately I grew sick of NWN, but not of the genre; so I'm looking for a strategical party-play RPG (or even MMORPG if you can't recommand of anything besides...though with the monthly-fee, I'd be reluctant to get one unless it's really good).

    Let me know if you can think of any!

    Fango
     
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  2. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    You liked NWN. You thought it had tatical combat. This proves your idiocy. You are a troll. ktnxbye.
     
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  3. Sarvis Erudite

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    Umm... Volourn, YOU like NWN and think it had tactical combat.

    The difference being he's talking about multiplayer where you actually can have party based tactics...
     
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  4. Shagnak Shagadelic

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    Troll: (verb) to utter a posting on Usenet intentionally designed to attract predictable
    responses or flames; (noun) one who does this.

    Fango is not a troll, he might just have a different interpretation of "tactics" from you. He might just be naive. He might not have stated himself clearly enough. He might just be wanting to know more and get some advice. Just maybe.

    You are the troll Volourn.
     
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  5. Sarvis Erudite

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    Finally my plan has come to fruition! MUHAHAHAHA.

    Oh damn... wrong post count now! Nooooooooo!
     
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  6. dojoteef Liturgist

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    I know what we can do. Let one of the admins delete your last post and you NEVER post again. That ought to do the trick. ;)
     
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  7. Sarvis Erudite

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    Yeah, but think about it... do you guys REALLY want me to be your demonic overloard? :evil:
     
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  8. Fez Erudite

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    Why not? I can think of worse. At least we could make fun of you and you'd just smile and nod as it all goes over your head.
     
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  9. Otaku_Hanzo Erudite

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    Try the upcoming Guild Wars, Fango. That's about all I can think of at the moment.
     
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  10. Deathboy Liturgist

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    that seemed to scare 'im off you could make a living saving people from Volourn
     
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  11. Fango Novice

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    First of all - yes, I'm playing in a highly modified server (I'm sure I exemplified it in my first post), not something most of you probably played in NWN... rest is rationally limited and potions are incredibly costly, so yes, strategical party-play is necessary to success. Anyway, I gave enough input to it in my first post...


    Well, I'll see what Guild Wars is about, thank you!


    Edit; oh, heh, people who don't know what I'm talking about won't scare me off with any clueless "flames"... I went to sleep after the post.
     
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  12. Deathboy Liturgist

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    Ummm...

    Just be careful what you say as Volourn is a canadian and evey one knows they is americans but with imbreading and lower IQ's

    So just be carefull!


    PS: Shagnak, if Volourn comes after me to call me an Idiot again please help me as I am sure he likes picking on poor defenceless people, he's probably the sorta guy that rapes comatose furries.

    Edit: For grama, I apologise as english is a second lanuage and I is thick
     
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  13. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
     
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  14. Llyranor Liturgist

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    I recall Wizardry VIII having very fun tactical party-based combat. A bit-slow paced, but the battle system is one of my favorites regardless.
     
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  15. k_bits Scholar

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    I always kinda thought IceWind Dale played like a D&D version of Jagged Alliance. IIRC that had provisos for party play via LAN? Could be wrong: you might wanna ask the old timers here.
     
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  16. Shagnak Shagadelic

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    Yes, it did.
    Pretty good too.

    Edit: hang on, I meant IWD does. Is that what you were talking about?
     
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  17. k_bits Scholar

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    Yep.

    Dunno abt JA
     
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  18. Sarvis Erudite

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    Have you tried Temple of Elemental Evil? It's a proper rendition of 3.5E rules, turn based and you control the whole party.
     
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  19. Talorc Liturgist

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    Wiz 7 is one of those "Your party is a big blob with multiple arms" style combats though. They really give me the shits, I like being able to individually move characters, so you can flank, put the fighters in place to intercept stuff going for the wizards etc.

    And I totally second both Icewind Dale 2 (IWD 2) and Temple of Elemental Evil (ToEE) as very good Fantasy Tactical combat simulators. Both should still be available in software stores with a little bit of looking, for very cheap prices. In Australia I have seen IWD2 bundled with IWD + all the IWD expansions for not very much
     
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  20. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    If you have a gameboy advance I would recommend Final Fantasy Tactics.
     
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  21. Saran Scholar

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    I agree with those that suggested the Icewind Dale series, you have complete control of your party and i enjoyed it a lot, which is pretty unusual when it comes to hack n' slash games.

    I got IWD 1 and 2 along with heart of winter for 35 euro in Portugal, which is a damn good price when you consider how much gameplay you get out of it, and its probably available for around the same price online.
     
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  22. Sarvis Erudite

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    Err... you're kidding right? The version for the gameboy sucked. It was completely ruined by the fact that your party is way overpowered, you almost have to TRY to lose most of the fights. The only highpoint is developing your characters and finding all the new moves, the other major problem being that those moves are often copies of each other or just inferior to a couple of the good ones.

    I mean, why the hell did fighting classes get ranged area attacks? That should have been the sole domain of mage classes... but because it wasn't there's no point in even playing a black mage.


    EDIT: If you have a Playstation or PS2 get the original Final Fantasy Tactics, that one is so much better it isn't even funny!
     
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  23. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    Well, okay. You're right, but FFTA is probably one of the best tactical games on the GBA. However, I forgot about Ogre Battle 2, that's a lot better. It's made by the same company as well, before SquareEnix bought it.

    If you have a PS2, get Phantom Brave.
     
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  24. Sarvis Erudite

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    :shock: What's this? I mean... I usually AM right... but I think this is the first time anyone's ever <i>admitted</i> it! ;)



    Is that good? I tried La Pucelle Tactics and didn't like it all that much, and Phantom Brave is by the same company... Pucelle Tactics wasn't bad or anything, I just kind of lost interest after a while.
     
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  25. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    La Pucelle Tactics was bad in comparison to Phantom Brave.
     
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