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Strategy guide publisher Prima Games shutting down after 28 years

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Infinitron, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    :salute: In retrospect, amazing they lasted this long.

    https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw...78536-prima-games-to-shutter-next-spring.html

     
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  2. The Decline Arcane

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    Amazing run considering printed strategy guides were made obsolete by the Internet in the late 90s.
     
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    Shame. Many of the older guides were made in partnership with the developers and featured a lot of concept art, extra lore titbits etc. There were practically extensions of the game's official merchandise. Also a lot more convenient to read than scrolling through gamefaqs.
     
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  5. Multi-headed Cow Educated

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    As weird as it sounds given they're dead fucking simple to play, the Bethesda games had surprisingly good strategy guides to the point where I actually splurged on a few of them since they were so well put together. Which now I look that shit up it apparently has gone up in value, strangely.
    https://www.amazon.com/Fallout-Game-Year-Collectors-Official/dp/0307466582

    Specifically that author though (David Hodgson) is any good. I also grabbed the Dragon Age Origins collector's edition guide around the same time (Fuck if I remember why, maybe there was a sale or I had a coupon or something) and that one's unsurprisingly going for much less now ($18-60) since it isn't nearly as enjoyable to flip through. Which you'd think DAO would have more fluff and lore and shit to talk about, but the difference in author is stark. DAO guide just has a couple fluff ghettos while the FO3 guide has quest flowcharts (For Fallout 3, yeah), fluff and tips in every little area, detailed maps, talks about the routines of the NPCs, etc. Makes FO3 seem more interesting than actually playing the game. Always kinda wanted to get a FNV and Skyrim guide since they were done by the same author but IIRC they never did a complete FNV guide including the DLC and I didn't jump on Skyrim complete in time and that's another $80 one I believe. Wonder if they could've lived longer if they were more along the enthusiast/collector's vein and made like the Hodgson books, rather than primarily just trying to sell themselves as walkthroughs for people who don't have the internet. Instead of spending $30+ more for a collector's edition of some game with a soundtrack CD and cosmetic DLC and 20 page "Artbook", buy the regular game and then buy our $30 hardcover that shows a lot of the fine detail in the game and has the developers talking about the experience of making individual pieces. Then you can sell it to neckbeards who want all the detail and fluff they can about a game they like and you can sell it as something else for shitheads to put on a shelf with their plastic bing bing wahoo figurines.
     
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  6. Morkar illiterate

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    I have to say I found printed strategy guides always great and I'm a bit sad about this. The strategy guide Multi-headed Cow mentioned was actually damn great. I have that one as well. And the one from New Vegas too (but unfortunately lacking an index of all things unlike the FO3 CE). Prima usually had good ones.

    I always collected strategy guides and still have a good bunch of them. Not all were that good but at least somehow usefull or providing fluff and behind the scenes stuff. I still have a Privateer guide book (I think from prima too) which was basically an extended game manual written ingame style with a walkthrough added to it. Really liked that one for some reason.

    I guess a big problem was not only the internet (which often provides more detailed information nowadays) but the speed the guides had to be published (basically ready before the game is even released) and a lot of guides get just outright obsolete after patches if you have games like PoE or even Wasteland 2.

    I wish such guides would have been published after half a year of the games release with focus on more detailed informations and behind the scenes looks or additional lore. Basically with some added stuff like the RPG Book but just focused on one game or a series.
     
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    I hope we'll find a torrent of all the guides.
     
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    The death knell was not Gamefaqs, it was YouTube. Why would you waste your time and be annoyed at finding one of a hundred pages in a faq, to find a description of what you need to do, and then figure out how it applies in the game... when you can SEE what you need to do to get unstuck in a video let's play?
     
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  9. taxalot I request a spice shipment immediately. Patron

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    Actually, I believe they could have survived. There is a market for game books, as long as they are made of quality content and are beautiful objects in themselves.
     
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    Do people actually like this? I've done it out of desperation before, but my god skipping through an LP listening to some nasally dingbat who only half knows what they're doing sputters around is torture.
     
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    What next, paid game hint hotlines going belly up?
     
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    Their death was certain just a few years into the 21st century. Like many others I'm outright amazed that they've lasted this long.
     
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  13. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    I actual prefer the old high quality FAQs that used to get made back in the 90's. Absolute maniacs would divulge things like the underlying programming that caused specific bugs in the game. And they were put together exceedingly well in terms of organization. You can't Ctrl-F a book to find a specific item and find out what it does without glancing at other shit and spoiling yourself.

    Sadly, gamefaqs took a nosedive after a while, even deleting a lot of the old quality guides.

    I'd imagine the real death knell for the books was the games themselves being so dumbed down and shallow that nobody felt the need for a guide anyways. Though it always seemed a bit odd to me- if I like a game enough that I'd want a huge fuck-off book about it, I know the game well enough that I don't need said book.
     
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  14. kalganoat Learned

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    meh I've read a couple of their guides. not very helpful worse than gamefaqs.
     
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  15. Beastro Arcane

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    That was part of the problem with those games. The guides were deliberately tied to the games in order to get kids to buy them, especially Nintendo Power.

    It's the reason behind various inexplicable puzzles one could never figure out logically in a lot of older games. I've heard the infamous Simon's Quest "stand against a wall for ages holding a specific item" is an example of one.

    Prima was one of the better ones for the stated reasons, though. I despised BradyGames given how much information they always missed in places. I found the best ones were from Versus books, though, like they're excellent FFVII guide: https://archive.org/details/Final-Fantasy-VII-Versus-Guide


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    Came with a damn nice poster too.

    The worst guide has to be this one though. It's huge, mostly filler and what little infromation it does have isn't just unhelpful, but outright wrong and misleading:

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  16. Simple Simon Literate

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    As others noted, I think this was partly driven by the way games have changed. Games get patched a lot more and they get pushed out without being finished sometimes. This makes putting out a print guide very difficult. Anyway, this reminds me of Danny DeVito's speech in "Other People's Money". Nothing worse for a company than getting a bigger share of a shrinking market. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q
     
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    I just want a torrent of this masterpiece
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    which was by brady but still
     
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