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Vapourware Sui Generis + Exanima Early Access

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Primordial Soup Nazi, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. Technomancer Learned

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    licensing means selling. Technology gets ported into other projects by two most common means, either they buy it and operate on a license like all games since GTA 4 from Rockstar or dead Lucas Arts with Force Unleashed who both paid for amazing Euphoria physics engine or they share it because the studious know and help each other or belong to the same corporate entity and ordered to do so like Electronic Arts does for example, who force-feeds Frostbite engine on all their subsidiaries.

    Neither applies to BM. I doubt that Bare Metal will lend their engine before they release SG at the very least, and it will be too late for the tech to be groundbreaking at that point.

    So the only way left for others is to develop it on their own if the demand is high enough from the players.

    Like Naughty Dog and Insomniac Games, their studios were located in the same building once upon a time and they incorporated their main characters to each other's games as easter eggs and even extra characters, probably shared some animation tech behind the scenes. Or when Obsidian helped Owlcat with some info on dev process. It rarely goes into full tech cooperation without some third power enforcing it.
     
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  2. Yaar Podshipnik Arcane Patron

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    It's very rare for a subsystem to be easily removable from its usual system environment. Usually, if you want to sell your subsystem, you would design it as a module, and then sell as some kind of middleware. That means you need to make some tradeoffs for encapsulation, and compatibility with other engines you want it to work. It's a big effort, and usually not worth doing "on the side".
     
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  3. Technomancer Learned

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  4. Mr. Magniloquent Savant

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    If these guys had as much a hard-on for content as they do systems optimization, they've have built an epic for the ages several years ago. I wonder if they focus on optimization because they lack the labor (artists, etc.) for content, or if this game merely became an outlet for their compulsive autism.
     
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  5. karnak Arcane Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Just imagine if these guys had teamed up with the OCD freaks behind Project Zomboid...
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  6. Zariusz Educated

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    Its sad that there is bigger chance that Half Life 3 will be announced and released before Exanima comes out of early access.
    And then there is also Sui Generis...
     
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  7. Technomancer Learned

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    Have faith people, the gears are grinding, they do not cease!
     
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  8. Technomancer Learned

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  9. Yaar Podshipnik Arcane Patron

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    I admire Madoc's perfectionism, but hope he won't go the route of simulating the bicep strength of the smith and impurities in water used for cooling to determine weapon properties.
     
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  10. Mr. Magniloquent Savant

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    The weapon degradation is decline. Not that they want it, but that they are trying to simulate it dynamically. So much window dressing. Those deck chairs on the Titanic are going to look so good when it hits the bottom of the ocean.
     
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  11. Modron Arcane

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    Equipment durability :negative:.
     
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  12. Yaar Podshipnik Arcane Patron

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    I didn't read that durability in a sense that you need to fix your shit every 5 mins. It sounds more like the system can generate a sword that is pristine, straight from smith or a sword that was laying in some damp chest for half a century (you will see examples like that when you play the game). At least nothing in current Exanima gameplay indicates that devs like such game-like systems like equipment durability.
     
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  13. AdolfSatan Savant

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    Worst part is that it's not like these are excuses to justify a lack of progress and delays, since every time an update comes it shows all the features promised, but why does he have to be so autistic about minituae? This game would have benefited so much from a project manager.
     
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