Suikoden

[abnaxus]

5 does appear to have an affection system of sorts.

 

[yes plz]

Yeah, S5 has a somewhat convoluted 'Liking Points' system that with how in depth it is you'd think it would have a sizable impact on the game... but only really affects like five cutscenes, some unite attack damage, whether Georg joins you in one ending, and if you have access to the 'become knight commander' ending.

 

[Reinhardt]

Good luck with your relationships with Viki or Jeane.

 

[abnaxus]

Viki best gurl

 

[IPFreely]

It's fucking criminal that this series is abandoned without being finished. We need at least one more proper game, not the JJ Trek Alt Universe shit that came out on the DS.

 

[abnaxus]

lel

i was hoping they weren't setting up a certain character for an obvious betrayal to make the game longer than it needs to be

of course it happened

 

[Shackleton]

4 hour into Suikoden V on PCSX2, goddamn this is a slow-ass game. I've done more running around talking to people than I think I did in Planescape!

I gather it picks up soon, but I can see a lot of people would have got bored by this point. I guess that's why they made Sialeeds and Arshtat with such large fun pillows, to keep people interested through the build-up. Works for me lol.

 

[abnaxus]

4 had a fairly long prologue section too but 5 is ridiculous

especially derping around Stormfist Arena

 

[abnaxus]

I can't get over the fact the second main villain who's the same age as Sialeeds married a 10-year-old.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I can't get over the fact the second main villain who's the same age as Sialeeds married a 10-year-old.

Probably the more realistic portrayal of medieval politic? Or is this political marry the young heir only happens in drama?

 

[abnaxus]

It does take place on the southern continent after all.

 

[abnaxus]

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Why must you hurt me so by reminding me about this series

 

[Ash]

So without spoiling the game, what's so great about Suikoden? And if I try it out, should I just skip to Suikoden 2?

The appeal of Suikoden is two things - recruiting characters and the continuity between games.

So in other words, we should skip all of them. These are pitiful merits. Seriously.

After 15 hours or so of Suikoden II, here is my premature review because I'm giving up.

Gameplay: 4/10
Art: 7/10
Music: 5/10
Story: 7/10

It's not without merit and charm but my god is the gameplay boring and pacing a little off.
I need a good JRPG (with good gameplay) to add to this list but haven't found anything since Parasite Eve 2.

 

[LJ40]

I need the kind of "augmented vision" that lets me think Parasite Eve 2 is a better JRPG than Suikoden 2.

How many hammer blows to the temple do you think it would take?

 

[Ash]

I don't give a crap if it's a better JRPG or not you shitlord. I care if it's a better game. Which it is.

Yes, Parasite Eve 2 is ARPG-lite. Boo fucking hoo. feel free to continue the years long debate as to whether or not x game qualifies as an RPG. Whether JRPGs qualify as RPGs. Wether or not JRPGs are a subgenre of JRPGs somehow. And what is an RPG in the first place.

 

[Hyperion]

I don't like your list, it's missing the single most monocled SNES game of all time:

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Holy replay value, batman!

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Another personal favorite that perfectly combined blobber combat, nice dungeons, automapping, and your typical storyfag JRPG goodness.

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Most well known for being absurdly difficult compared to the Japanese version, had some fantastic in-battle graphics, monster design, and had an enjoyable soundtrack imo.

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Shitty voice acting aside, character building was unreal with the way accessory crafting and equipment weight worked in this game. Infuriating minigames to get crafting material for the best items may break the endgame for lots of people. Damage numbers become absolute insanity with peak gear - 7 or 8 numbers worth.

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Anyway, back to our daily scheduled commiserating of the death of Suikoden.

Edit: I always thought Suikoden 3 was the pinnacle of the series, most people disagree with me and find it one of the weakest.

 

[abnaxus]

So without spoiling the game, what's so great about Suikoden? And if I try it out, should I just skip to Suikoden 2?

The appeal of Suikoden is two things - recruiting characters and the continuity between games.

So in other words, we should skip all of them. These are pitiful merits. Seriously.

After 15 hours or so of Suikoden II, here is my premature review because I'm giving up.

Gameplay: 4/10
Art: 7/10
Music: 5/10
Story: 7/10

It's not without merit and charm but my god is the gameplay boring and pacing a little off.
I need a good JRPG (with good gameplay) to add to this list but haven't found anything since Parasite Eve 2.

I can't get over the fact the second main villain who's the same age as Sialeeds married a 10-year-old.

lel I knew I had posted this in the wrong thread

 

[Deflowerer]

Edit: I always thought Suikoden 3 was the pinnacle of the series, most people disagree with me and find it one of the weakest.

Suikoden 3 was fantastic, just a bit hampered by obvious limitations when it came to transitioning to 3D. Story-wise it was also excellent. My favorite of the series too.

Soundtrack largely sucked ass though.

 

[abnaxus]

 

[IPFreely]

I actually bought the soundtrack (I was in Japan) before I was able to play the game.

I put it in my Discman in my hotel and just about threw the soundtrack out the fucking window after listening to the first disc.

It's grown on me since, but I was expecting Suiko 2's level of greatness, and I was massively disappointed.

 

[Deflowerer]

Yeah, I don't understand what the fuck were they thinking with that shitty MIDI.

It has a few great tracks though:





Still, what a game.

 

[abnaxus]

1/3 of Suikoden 3 was good at least (Geddoe chapters).

 

[Hyperion]

Geddoe's first 3 chapters were definitely the best part of the game from a story and character perspective, but his party, while good, was too heavily restricted. Ace and Queen are kinda useless. Hugo's Chapter 3 was the best before the parties merged. He had the most flexibility, most characters available (Plus, Mua. One of the best characters in the game, alongside Fred), and most freedom to travel (aside from Brass Castle in the first half) around and gear up, and test parties. Also, Fury Rune grinding.

 

[abnaxus]

Ace, dunno. Didn't he have a good unite with that mage. But Queen was one of the best characters because of Heavy Damage skill.