Decline Sword Coast Legends Pre-Release Thread

Actually that's already announced. N-Space seems to be made up of former Bioware devs so I guess you're close enough:

https://forums.swordcoast.com/index...eleased-as-first-expansion-pack-after-launch/

 

Yeah, I guess you are right. I've been listening to that retarded Pathfinder fan (lol) Night Goat too much.

 

I wouldn't call myself a Pathfinder fan, as I've said before it's hilariously bad in a lot of ways. I play both Pathfinder and 5e, each of which has flaws but is at least a playable game.

Spamming content is bad, but there needs to be a middle ground between spamming content and WotC's current policy of not producing any new content at all. Yes, there are the two adventure paths a year, but those are outsourced to third parties and are of no value to anyone but those DMs who don't want to make their own campaigns. D&D needs campaign settings, new monsters, new character options. If it doesn't get those, its days are numbered. And that may be Hasbro's intention - my theory is that the suits think D&D will compete with MTG, which makes them a lot more money than D&D ever could, and so they're just going to let it die. They want to have a current edition of D&D on the shelves for PR reasons, but they don't want people to actually play it.

Also, to clarify: 5e's phb is not the best selling phb of all time. It's the best selling on Amazon. Which really wasn't a big deal in 2000 or 2003. And there the 5e books are being sold for $20 less than anywhere else in order to artificially drive up the sales ranking, fucking over local game stores in the process.

 

I just wanted your opinion and thought of a "hilarious" way of summoning and motivating you.

 

A true asshole would post a tsundere meme here.

 

I'm doing it here.

 

That's exactly the reason why they would never even consider D&D competing with/threatening MtG sales. They're not new in this, MtG was always a mammoth next to D&D's Eohippus, sales-wise, even - though maybe less extremely - in the 3-3.5 boom era.

 

Well, that girl sure was excited... Not sure if cute or annoying. Also, he likes Ranger class the most! Best game evah, savior of RPGs!

Anyway, why can't any of these interviewers ask a one simple fucking question: Is it like Aurora Toolset?

 

Too bad Ranger is the worst class in 5ed by far and it's not even close. The spell list barely salvages it. Barely.

 

Not surprising at all, as she's from mmorpg.com. Mind you, compared with most MMOs, SCL totally looks like "best game evah, savior of RPGs."

P.S. Dan Tudge apparently has 50 points in fast talk. I can't follow him but his speech sounds very persuasive and reassuring.

 

Why do so many tards like this guy insist on name-dropping games like WL2, DOS and PoE, comment on their quality, only to later admit they've barely played them? Seems to be a common thing, like at attempt to burnish some gaming cred which only makes them look like idiots.

A few interesting details in the write-up but the stuff about DM's having unlimited power directly contradicts what NS said earlier about using the "threat mechanic" to inhibit the DM's powers/

 

/facepalm

Perhaps DM threat will be optional or only used in open games.

 

All quality issues aside, I think these guys have missed their monetisation window by about 5 years.

They're wisely going after 'NWN-era' Bioware's market, and that gives them some leeway. If the BG2 fans were forced down the cinematic action adventure path, the NWN fans didn't even get that. NWN wasnt just PC centric in terms of tech - the whole concept was from the PC-specific idea of LAN parties and online play made to feel like LAN parties writ large (see counterstrike for the FPS gold standard). They aren't in direct competition with P:E, WL2, etc and nobody expects a multiplayer NWN successor to be turn based. Nevertheless, it will still hurt them to not be able to rely on pulling the old school single player crowd that they'd have counted on in the planning phase.

But the biggest issue is that this whole model comes from an era where you could make such great profit from the box launch that it made sense to support the game for years after release, like with Starcraft, CS and, well, NWN. How is it going to be possible for a small studio, in the age where you need to start charging for glorified patches and every bit of content that follows just to make your initial release make pay dirt (in no small part because that's how the industry adapted to piracy, by shifting as much of the monetisation as possible away from the initial software purchase), to give the kind of support needed to make this type of game work?

 

I get a Golden Axe feeling reading that.

Not that this shit would approach Golden Axe goodness.

 

Tempted to make a troll thread on their forums to ask about riding dragons

 

Here you're horribly wrong. I typically prefer RTwP over TB but if there's a kind of video games that could really benefit from TB combat it's NWN-like non-massive multi-player RPGs. Adjustable challenge (due to the presence of a DM) makes TB a perfect fit because it's possible (in theory) to create interesting and complex chess-like setups that will require players and the DM to think carefully before every move. With RT combat it's, unfortunately, a wasted opportunity.

 

Thought this might interest someone:

 

I agree with that assessment based off of the video's I've seen...the combat doesn't look great. It looks sluggish, delayed, there isn't a lot of reaction/impact to strikes, and overall just looks kinda sloppy. Basically like older MMO combat...

Not all of it was bad, though, spell effects look very nice and even have some pretty cool looking physics like the fireball blowing up the crates.

 

Itz coming

 

This was a interesting stream. The campaign building tools look more interesting than the gameplay but I am still angry at them for charging extra for tilesets and monsters that campaign builders can use to prolong the life of their game and bring them more sales. It is counter intuitive and I don't want to support them financially. I will probably pirate the game at release or real release (when major bug fix patches are done) to play the singleplayer campaign and buy the GotY edition in Steam Sale edition later to make my campaign if I read positive experiences in that part from fools (people) that buy the game at start and go into it right away.

 

Campaign development tool looks interesting. I dont know what to think about the fact that DM can spawn stuff just under players, so they can be suprised. Its kinda lame but at the same time helps DM against that type of players that are caucious all the time, to the point its not fun for others.

I wonder if that part where you can write text for quests, dialogues etc, is enough to create climat in a game, or it will be just dry, cliche text, biowarian at best.