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KickStarter System Shock 1 Remake by Nightdive Studios - actually a remake again

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Sorry, would support those guys if they sticked to the original, not a graphix whore, and don't want to pay for a shinnier but shittier version of System Shock, no thanks. Can play the original anytime I want, hope they aren't fucking greedy undeserving assholes like BeamDog that took the old BGs from sale but hey... "getting money from desperate fans and using it to sell shit game to modern audiences" seems like a popular kickstarter fraud scheme so I don't expect them to be above that.
     
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  2. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Having never played the original ... I liked the demo a lot and I intend to play this, but they don't need my money and I can certainly get it a lot cheaper than $30 down the road. Been bitten too many times by devs who take my "get the game" pledge and then put the game on sale for half that price on release.
     
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  3. MercenarySnake Learned

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    I don't plan to back this the way things seem to be going but maybe when it goes on a sale for cheap I'll get it.

    Wonder if the backer audio logs are going to feature lesbians, gay couples, and :codexisforindividualswithgenderidentityissues:.
    Would be funny to see what everybody says if that's the case.
     
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  4. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock/posts/1636121

    Yeah, that sounds not so far from the original.

    Cause stats are boring! :hahano:
     
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  5. Ash Arcane

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    That triggered me too.
     
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  6. Darth Slaughter Arcane Patron

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    Otherside is making it already. It will take long, but I bet nightdive will take long with ss1 remake, so when they will be ready to move on, ss3 may actually be released (yeah, right). So if they make a ss3, will be a remake.
     
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  7. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    https://www.kickstarter.com/project...osts/1636121?cursor=13962089#comment-13962088
     
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  8. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    Still backing this. I am curious how they will take this. :salute:
     
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  9. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    And that's why you should always say "attributes" instead of "stats".
     
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  10. Durandal Arcane

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    There already was plenty of upgradeable cyberware to begin with in SS1. How much more do they even intend to add?
     
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  11. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    "Gender Modification vX*"

    *Because numbers are sexist!
     
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  12. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock/posts/1636816

     
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    Continuation of Matt Chat w/ Stephen Kick

     
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  14. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    "Worked with" - right. ZylonBane will have a field day with this one.

    Ah-hahahahah...no. We've heard that before from better people than you, Kick. Here's what we want: System Shock 1, updated for modern-day systems with modern-day graphics with modern-day controls. That's it. We don't care about unwanted or <Current Year>-levels of changes to the game - just the good ol' stuff in better packaging. Do that, and you get money thrown at you. People have stopped backing the game because of this extra nonsense that no one asked for. Learn your limits, check to see where that line is before you step over it.
     
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  16. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Oh yes, they've all withstood the test of time.

    Which is why you've slowed everything down, bloated everything's health, hired MCA "to help shape and direct the existing narrative of System Shock" (tm) and want to add "RPG elements" that were never there.

    Fucking hack frauds.
     
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  17. Latelistener Cipher

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    This is the ugly truth. The majority of remakes aren't made for fans, but rather for those who never played originals, and usually completely alien to primary sources. People who ask for it have no idea what developers will have to do in order to make it digestible for the modern audience.
     
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  18. DosBuster Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    Yeah, that's why they released the Enhanced Edition, same reason why Pathologic also got a HD version, I think that they should be allowed to re-imagine the game with modern design conventions and trends, so long as they provide the original game alongside the remake.
     
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  19. Durandal Arcane

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    and like Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles, throw in ANOTHER game of the series alongside the original as a bonus
     
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  20. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Yep, won't be giving money to NightDive any time soon, I've been reading so many redflag buzzwords and stupid popamole marketing shilling shit like this thing above that I definitely don't trust them.
     
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  21. Gentle Player Arcane

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    It seems like this remake is aimed more towards fans of System Shock 2 who either never played or were indifferent to the original. The only logical reason to introduce RPG elements is because SS2 had them and it was the more popular game; yet the fact that the RPG elements of SS2 were by far its weakest aspect is just being ignored. So I'm not sure that this is being remade in good faith, and if it is then I can only say that the people behind it are confused at best. I think that, what with System Shock Portable and now Enhanced version, there isn't even much need for a remake. The only real changes it needs, in my view, are customisable hotkeys for grenades and weapon selection and a side-step move for Cyberspace (whilst making it more hectic and adding more of those mines to compensate - the original concept I think is okay). On the other hand, SS2 could definitely do with a remake as it needs a systemic overhaul and something done about the flat lighting, perhaps also sprucing up the level design a bit. I wonder if that will be their next project?
     
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    I love how the guy talks about how they are getting the most humanly possible out of the Unity engine - then it cuts to scenes render in default Unity bloom nonsense :lol:

    Even the remastered version from I think the early 90s looks way better than this does.

    The problem here is in graphics land today there are too many munchkins who just have to either whiz up the graphics with retarded shit or make it totally illogically gritty and grimdark. There's no one who understands moods any more, and the technical qualifications are a little too much to simply take a good artist and have them do their shit. So you wind up with some fucking teenage modders all grown up doing the work instead. Just bleck.
     
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  24. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    "RPG Elements" I'm going to guess means weapon upgrades or slightly stronger softwares or something. Like Doom 2016 did. Numbers r teh hard for modern audiences, almost zero chance they're adding an XP system or anything like Cyber Modules were.
     
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  25. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock/posts/1638853

     
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