The Alpha Protocol "I finished the game!" Thread!

[Mortmal]

The endgame i got was work for leland and betray him, no girls damnit! Even the traitorous redhead diddnt join me ,"file unknown"it said in the ending sum up, what a shame , no sis banging either , double shame...
Theres 3 majors endings with multiple subconsequences, its not that bad, they really gave me the illusion there was many more choices than that.
Looking back at it, i realize i spent a lot of time on minigames that could have been released on a c64 floppy when the game take 11GO on my hardrive, all those years upgrading my hardware all that technology to end up playing simplistic and frustrating minigames.
The game experience oscillated between moment of greatness and complete frustration, i dont think the stealth part is worth playing, i dont have the patience to hack and disable security with that terrible system.

Hopefully they will release an improved sequel wih better minigame design, not counting on it .

 

[Hamster]

no sis banging either

That could have saved this game for me. Real shame.

 

[Whisperer]

-Fucked all girls expect SIE who I had 0 rep with. Madison died. Told Mina to go into hiding.
-Punched Leland in the face during his gloating in the interrogation room.
-Convinced Marburg not to interfere (would have killed him, but he was pitiful.)
-Got strapped to table.
-Got rescued by Sis of all people. Underused much?
-Contacted Parker and pwned him with logic -> he agreed to do the turncoat thing.
-Had to protect Parker from raging soldiers (scene played out like the one with Surkov at the embassy, except no sniper rifle), was assisted by Sis (who is the only good AI vs. AI shot in the game, it seems, she pwned them while the G22 minions were useless).
-Mina (WHAT? Stupid bitch, I said DON'T COME BACK! You deserve to die!) died while I was chasing Westridge who was taunting me.
-Took pleasure in killing Darcy.
-Almost smashed my monitor in the fight against the Jedi helicopter (seriously, a HELICOPTER? Wasn't the Al-Samad tank enough?)
-Owned Westridge with Chain Shot in like 3 seconds, refused to go back to the agency and killed him for killing Mina(nice scene).
-Killed Leland just because he was a tool. Scarlet didn't show up (10 rep).
-Rambo ending, no girl.

Overall, great game, will play Veteran. I especially liked that even if you expose Alpha Protocol AND Halbech, it's suggested in the end that you helped Darcy's dad gain power and he just might be worse (even if his agenda seemed ok.)

 

[Mangoose]

Where do you meet SIE? I never met her, probably because I missed out on one of the first missions in Moscow.

I found the C&C... unsatisfying. True, there were many concrete consequences in who stays alive, who helps you, etc. But outside, impersonal repercussions seemed to be glossed over. This was worst at the end, when I expected a montage, but instead it told me who lived/died (which I already knew) and then a short paragraph about everything being okay and Darcy's dad becoming president. What else? What about the effects of the riot in Taiwan? What does Ronald Sung do next? What happens to Brayko? Does European terrorist watch tighten up? Did sending info to Scarlet do anything besides increase my reputation with her? What will Shaheed do next?

Also, typical actiony Obsidian ending is actiony. Ugh.

 

[circ]

You meet SIE in Moscow trainyard.

 

[Mangoose]

I started out in Moscow with the boat mission where you meet SIS, then Surkov, then meeting Albatross, and by that time the Investigating Weapon Shitment was over (which I'm guessing is the trainyard).

 

[yaster]

hm, need to kill albatross and see what changes in teipei.

You'll get to plant 3 bugs and keep all. I heard it so I wonder myself if it profits you somehow.

 

[yaster]

What about the effects of the riot in Taiwan? What does Ronald Sung do next? What happens to Brayko? Does European terrorist watch tighten up? Did sending info to Scarlet do anything besides increase my reputation with her? What will Shaheed do next?

You must have missed news broadcast during credits. All those things were spoken off there.

 

[Mangoose]

What about the effects of the riot in Taiwan? What does Ronald Sung do next? What happens to Brayko? Does European terrorist watch tighten up? Did sending info to Scarlet do anything besides increase my reputation with her? What will Shaheed do next?

You must have missed news broadcast during credits. All those things were spoken off there.

=/ great, of course I skip credits (there was nothing in the 1st few seconds IIRC). Lemme see if I have a save at/close to the end...

 

[Felix]

Never met Westridge again in my game after Saudi Arabia. Fucked Scarlet, a little surprised.

Now another run with Veteran.

 

[Mangoose]

I'm replaying on Recruit now. I played Tech Specialist the first time and I actually had some nice consequences.

Unfortunately I played with a nice stealth build the first run, so I want to do something different this time but without fucking up and killing a bunch of civilians either. Or maybe I just will and then join Halbech. =/

 

[Ogg]

Where do you meet SIE? I never met her, probably because I missed out on one of the first missions in Moscow.

I found the C&C... unsatisfying. True, there were many concrete consequences in who stays alive, who helps you, etc. But outside, impersonal repercussions seemed to be glossed over. This was worst at the end, when I expected a montage, but instead it told me who lived/died (which I already knew) and then a short paragraph about everything being okay and Darcy's dad becoming president. What else? What about the effects of the riot in Taiwan? What does Ronald Sung do next? What happens to Brayko? Does European terrorist watch tighten up? Did sending info to Scarlet do anything besides increase my reputation with her? What will Shaheed do next?

Also, typical actiony Obsidian ending is actiony. Ugh.

You completely missed a character and you still find that C&C is unsatisfying?

I'm really intrigued when I read this thread: We all had a very different story, it seems. Characters you meet, help you receive, ennemies you fight, endings (with different final bosses!)... Quite impressive.

The embassy mission is a good instance:
-you can side with the mercenaries
-you can convince the guards you're on their side
-you can fuck it all and fight both sides at the same time (or sneak in, depending on your play style)
Don't tell me it's the same outcome! And don't forget that these fightings can have long term repercussions (fighting against SIE can influence Marburg, killing American agents can have multiple repercussions...)

 

[Darth Roxor]

BROS, I ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY THAT ALPHA PROTOCOL HAS THE BEST REACTIVITY (OR C&C WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT) EVER MADE.

YOU CAN NOW CRUCIFY ME, KTHX

 

[Felix]

YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH, BRO.

 

[Inziladun]

You know, I take back a lot of what I said earlier. I am impressed too. While the main path of the game, regretfully doesn't change much in terms of C&C, the character relationships is very dynamic. There's a lot of things discussed in this thread that I had no clue about, such as Scarlet being a secret assassin? Wtf? And Westridge coming back in the ending? Wtf? Is Omen a possible handler for the end? You can rejoin Alpha Protocol? I had no clue about any of this.

But still, I think they should of added a bunch more missions, and depending on the choices you made would determine which missions you undertook. That would of made the game 10x better.

 

[circ]

STILL A SHIT GAME BY A SHIT DEVELOPER

 

[anus_pounder]

So I heard the crappy guards at the embassy can be replaced by marines if you did something earlier....

 

[Inziladun]

That's where the game fails miserably. The missions are still the same shit no matter what.

 

[SuicideBunny]

So I heard the crappy guards at the embassy can be replaced by marines if you did something earlier....

huh? you mean they normally aren't?

 

[hoochimama]

Just finished the game, didn't like it. Felt like all the "c&c" amounted to having differently colored npc soldiers assist me during certain missions and who I got to fight as minibosses near the end.

Might be a big thing for you if you actually cared for the characters or the story, I don't care for the 24 show nor the Bourne movies.

If the game actually has different story paths and fails to make the player feel like he's carving his own path then it's selling itself short. Hard to judge without a complete listing of the c&c or a full guide.

 

[Whisperer]

If the game actually has different story paths and fails to make the player feel like he's carving his own path then it's selling itself short. Hard to judge without a complete listing of the c&c or a full guide.

That's weird. There's no "if's", the game does have 3 or maybe more "main" endings and several variations on those : join Halbech and kill everyone in AP, rejoin Alpha protocol or kill everyone.

And about the c&c, while I don't usually go crazy over it, I must say that AP is the only game since Deus Ex 1 (and maybe "Invisible War", didn't get to finish that one) that does it in a way that doesn't insult one's intelligence (OMG U MUST CHOOSE A OR B BUT WAIT I TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU CHOOSE EACH AND THEN WE TALK SOME MORE!) and you actually don't find out everything about everyone during the first playthrough (I had no idea who the Taipei sniper was, or what Sis's locket represented, or that I had met Parker's daughter, or that "someone" is a NSA double-agent).

Of course, the game DOES behave strangely at some points no matter what you choose (eg. Mina present at endgame no matter what you told her earlier, you having to bug G22 base even with Albatross as ally, the whole Lazo quest), but it's the KOTOR 2 story all over again : cut content and poor integration - expect "Alpha Protocol Restoration project" from Team G22zka 5 years from now.

 

[SuicideBunny]

for what it's worth, she isn't really nsa.
if you accept leland's offer he asks that you talk to and kill her, and when you talk to her she says that she is from a special agency that was made solely with the purpose of exposing ap.
considering the other secret info about deus vult and g22 it's kinda funny how every major organization in the setting is the result of an alpha protocol fuck-up.

and her being there despite telling her not to, if you talk to her normally she mentions she was caught while leaving thorton's place (during the thorton dialogue before the end she says she has her own safehouse she could use if you tell her not to go back to ap) because she was being traced without noticing.

having to bug g22 despite cooperating with them is also not strange. it's not a fantasy cliche game, it's a spy cliche game. makes perfect sense.

what behaves strangely are dialogues that don't factor in dossier information, like getting a complete dossier on mina during cia infiltration but being unable to confront her about the fact that it says she's an nsa double agent.

 

[Whisperer]

@Suicidebunny
oh, well that clears it up. I didn't save her because it was obvious that the game was leading me to a "24"-style finale (I used stealthy approaches in Taipei and Moscow, but I felt that Rome didn't measure up to the quality of those 2 hubs and I used the assault rifle in each mission, plus the game decided to kill the "I don't like mountains" guy for me), so I never had that conversation with Mina. I guess choosing to sleep with her instead of talking some more didn't help either.
As for dossier contradictions, that's exactly what I meant - although it comes close (you being able to investigate one of the 3 Ap handlers - I just knew it was Parker and the email you send to Mina about him is spot-on), this still isn't the game in which you can spot every betrayal and plot twist and call it just because you're THAT genre savvy.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I never got the secret G22 and Deus Vult info pointing out to Alpha Protocol actions gone wrong

I feel stupid now.

 

[SuicideBunny]

g22 info you get when you refuse albatross' offer after not killing sis and says that one of the previous incarnations of alpha protocol was named g19, and with the albatross conversations it pretty much paints a picture of albatross being just another parker (though not being a pedo is a huge plus for parker) working in just another alpha protocol, only this one is as stupidly devoted to maintaining the status quo instead of ensuring american supremacy.

by deus vult secret info i mean the deal with marburg being a former alpha protocol operative who got cut off by parker in a previous incarnation of alpha protocol and then started vci, while being butthurt all the time about it.