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Bard's Tale The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep - Director's Cut
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dragonul09
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The game is already on 106th place on steam and still gets bombarded with negative reviews, so it's safe to say the game is pretty much dead Fergie, also the only thing to hang is yourself for funneling 10 mils into this charade. Fucking scam artist is up there with that prick that made Broken Age, both incompetent managers.
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Who cares? We have Styg, we have Iron Tower, we have the Expeditions guys, we have Goldhawk, we have Wormwood, BlueBottle, Whalenought, not to mention all the promising upcoming games - Beautiful Desolation, Xenonauts 2, Desperados 3, Fallen Gods, Iron Oath, Stygian, Encased - and a hell of a lot more that I don't know about - all from people who apparently genuinely understand what makes us love some of our old games. Not an older generation coasting on nostalgia, while trying to bring their games "to a wider audience".
If we need to 'say good bye' to mid-tier projects that overpromise and under-deliver, what is lost? Nothing, I would argue. Other than the salaries of people making uninspired games living in some of the highest cost of living areas in the world (coastal CA, Boston).
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"Loved by critics"
That is probably a label you want to avoid. On whatever product. Critics are fake news or paid shills.
I think there still is a market for blobbers. It just a very small niche, and being succesful requires in depth knowledge of your target audience, realism about the small scale of your products market potential and a cost / profit structure based on that (and definitely no outsourcing of most of the key components of your game, that is just silly).
That is probably a label you want to avoid. On whatever product. Critics are fake news or paid shills.
I think there still is a market for blobbers. It just a very small niche, and being succesful requires in depth knowledge of your target audience, realism about the small scale of your products market potential and a cost / profit structure based on that (and definitely no outsourcing of most of the key components of your game, that is just silly).
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CryptRat
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Except that not even one of these studios you're mentioning is making an RPG with full party creation so as far as I'm concerned "genuinely understand what makes [me] love some of our old games" is an overstatement to say the least.
IHaveHugeNick
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At least Fargo owns up to problems on Twitter, as opposed to others who only react to dick sucking on official forums.
I agree that we still have some fantastic indie RPGs out there. But it's still sad to see these projects fail. Especially since some of these nostalgia games were better than those indies you mentioned.
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True, it's the same thing they did with the Secret Backer Skill in Wasteland 2. 
Issue with this argument - it contradicts another widespread genre of Kickstarter-critical posts which alleges that companies like Obsidian and inXile aren't "older generation" at all, but are instead largely staffed by oblivious millennials due to the departure of talented personnel
Issue with this argument - it contradicts another widespread genre of Kickstarter-critical posts which alleges that companies like Obsidian and inXile aren't "older generation" at all, but are instead largely staffed by oblivious millennials due to the departure of talented personnel
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fantadomat
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The same as with the sentry tower,it was filled with goblins that i moped the floor and at the top there was four paladin/knights and big demon monster. Really fun battle,while the reward was total shit and not worth the time waster running around for save points. Still the battle was a reward in itself.yes i saw it, but that fight was labeled as overpowering , while everything else was trivial...First you read the runes on the skulls front .. and back, green and red . Then you place those combinations on the wheels according the colors. Then a lever appears in the blood pool, it will raise the skulls, read them like music notes.
That Mangar's tower bell puzzle. Anyone have the bell combination at the end of the puzzle? I did the sides and pulled the lever.
Ring the bells in that order 5342142321
Now go to the end, enjoy boss fight not dropping any loot....
I read it on steam,i have doing that,it seems that my game is bugged in this place and i get no final battle. Also i read that there is a stairs on a bridge with blood,they lead to the treasure. Hope that helps you.
Anyone managed to get the constellation part of the main quest? This game have far too much puzzles,the best part of it by now is the starting undertown.
MRY
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It's nice to be on that list, but the truth is that Fallen Gods (and, I think, almost everything else on that list) isn't the same kind of game as the ones that will be gone if inXile/Obsidian throwbacks stop getting made. Colony Ship has more or less all the same features, but it won't be in the same audiovisual league and probably won't have the same amount of content. (Mind you, AOD is my favorite RPG since MOTB, and in my top five, so I'm not slightly ITS here.) Almost everything else on the list lacks core features of the throwback games.
The truth is that to make a long, branching-dialogue-heavy, quest-heavy, party-based RPG with varied environments to explore requires lots of man-hours. There's no getting around it. Even at developing-world prices, those man-hours have a real cost to them. And developing-world games have (in my experience) are typically not nearly at the level of polish as the throwbacks. I myself don't have time/interest for a big, sprawling game like PoE, and unless it's an absolute gem even a game like TTON or WL2 wouldn't really interest me. So I'm not sure I'm going to miss out on anything. But the idea that just because Beautiful Desolation has gorgeous art or Fallen Gods has a few good lines or text they're suitable replacements for Obsidian is misguided.
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Lacrymas
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While it's true that nobody has made a game like PoE, are we that desperate to drop any pretenses for quality? Keep in mind that the older games these ones are based off of had at most half the budget. I know inflation and such play a role, but they are sooooooooooo far from them in terms of quality it's honestly frightening. At one point, throwing more money at it wouldn't have solved their major problems because it requires a skilled hand for these problems to not be such. These middling AA devs lack good workers and artists, and managers. In any case, I'd rather have all the AoDs and UnderRails than whatever Obsidian, Larian and inXile are pumping out.
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inb4 lacrymas ends up playing and enjoying bt4 after shitposting in this thread for 20 pages just as he did with poe2
ProphetSword
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Wrote a song about this game. Wanna hear it? Here it goes...
Here is the story of an RPG,
Based upon a famous trilogy,
Thirty-five dollars I was willing to pay,
In order to return to Skara Brae.
Download the game and what do I see,
I can't even create my own party,
Textures look like ass and the quests are lame,
What the fuck is up with this game?
Gave it a shot, four hours long,
So much in this game is fucking wrong,
It's so bad I'm literally stunned,
Here we go Steam, I await my refund...
Here is the story of an RPG,
Based upon a famous trilogy,
Thirty-five dollars I was willing to pay,
In order to return to Skara Brae.
Download the game and what do I see,
I can't even create my own party,
Textures look like ass and the quests are lame,
What the fuck is up with this game?
Gave it a shot, four hours long,
So much in this game is fucking wrong,
It's so bad I'm literally stunned,
Here we go Steam, I await my refund...
V_K
Arcane
The sad truth is that it was the only blobber that was successfully kickstarted. Deathfier, and even Shaker (remember that Brathwaite kickstarter?) would probably have been better games, but alas. You get what you deserve, I guess.
BEvers
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V_K
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