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Bard's Tale The Bard's Tale IV Pre-Release Thread [RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'inXile Entertainment' started by SophosTheWise, Dec 5, 2014.

  1. agris Arcane Patron

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    While I'm anecdotal, your point is true for me. I bought and played all the IE games as they were released, including IWD2 *puke*, and backed PoE. Never played a BT game, but I backed inXile's BT based on cred (and enjoying LoG 1; blobbers were not part of my childhood). To further your point, I'm at the stage in my life where I should only be playing a game for an hour at night before getting on getting on. Of course, Fallout 1.5 Resurrection has fucked that up but hey, not every year we get a mod that feels like Fallout 1 got a sequel.
     
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  2. theSavant Self-Ejected

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    You're right, it's time to put off the nostalgia glasses. Wiz8 was not perfect either. Let's see how BT4's skill system works out. Besides, BT4 is already offering more than what I could expect from a niche RPG.
     
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  3. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron Literally Hitler

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    MMX is probably closer to BT4 than a pure dungeon crawler like Grimrock or Elminage and unfortunately, it didn't sell well either. inXile does have more exposure with its titles than what Ubisoft did for MMX, so who knows, it may still be a surprise hit. The BT4 Kickstarter already did better than many naysayers were expecting.
     
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  4. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    This is an important difference, but Inxile and Obsidian strategies were somewhat similar. They both used oldschool ex-players and aged jornous to promote their Kickstarter and securing funding, but they were aiming a bigger audience all along. Make no mistake, they will mercilessly and progressively dumb down the game during the development. If the past decisions of Inxile regarding T:ToN and health bars are reliable indicators, as soon as they realize that most players can’t understand some mechanic or puzzle they will simple remove them completely. At the end of the day, BT will be an uninspired action game but will sell a lot because it has pretty graphics. The butthurt among blobbers enthusiasts will be glorious. I will laugh at codexers who are praising Inxile as our saviors after the Pillars fiasco.
     
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  5. Dorateen Arcane

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    Turn Based combat = action game
     
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  6. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    Pure combat game = action game.
     
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  7. Sacred82 Self-Ejected Dumbfuck

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    Bard's Tale is less in danger of being dumbed down than Wasteland was by proxy of Fallout.

    I agree though, it's not going to be super deep mechanically and the fact that skills don't have ranks already hints at that. No way the skill trees will be so large in the end product either (especially the many skills that don't count toward a specialization).

    Still, blobbers don't need to be super deep. And what they have said so far about the combat actually sounds good. It will be similar to PoE in that any difficulty except the hardest can be beaten without strategy, though it's going to be interesting to see if there's going to be a hardcore mode where enemies act more intelligently.
     
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  8. Dorateen Arcane

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    If you mean a game is combat focused, or combat orientated, or has a lot of combat, then say so. But the term "action" has an entirely separate connotation involving speed, reflexes and player manual skill. In other words, Action. And that is distinguished from the more cerebral experience that is a turn-based role-playing game.
     
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  9. Lurker King Self-Ejected The Real Fanboy

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    I agree, but if the turn-based system end up being streamlined, it will not be that cerebral.
     
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  10. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Soooooo basically all blobbers? :|
     
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  11. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    Well shit....
     
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    That came out wrong. Of course, I think that combat focused games are not cRPGs, but that doesn’t matter that much, because I also appreciate combat focused games, especially if they have interesting character building and are turn-based. However, if the game have shallow mechanics, than it can be considered a mere action game, in the sense that is a combat focused game with little resemblance to action games with character building and solid combat system.
     
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  13. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Or one might define an action game as a game where the gameplay is action or at least action-related. I donno, just a thought.
     
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  14. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    IT LIVES: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/the-bards-tale-iv/posts/1693725



     
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    This looks really good.
     
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  16. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Oh look, the decline squad is on the march in the comments again:

    :retarded:
     
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  17. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    All nature assets ripped from Boy and his Kite. Temporal AA. Thank god I got a refund in time. This is not what I was hoping for when I backed. I was expecting much more professional things of them.
     
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  18. agris Arcane Patron

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    edit: I just hope the dungeon maps are something near a wizardry level of complex.
     
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  19. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    Rewatched it 3 times again. I'm blown away by how shitty this is. If someone posted a video like that saying "hey guys I'm making a game, check out my vid" on ue4 forums, people would be saying "watch some more digitaltutor vids, you souldn't be making levels before you know how to do them". They're bland. The trip to Scotland was that they'd end up using free ue4 nature pack? Don't they have an artistic vision for the nature at all? Ever saw how Witcher 3 looks? They spent a year doing this? I'm amazed. Temporal AA? Is this 2012 or something? You want TXAA when you're shoving a pair of big boobs into the player's face, not when you're showing fine detail like stalks of grass and leaves. I don't understand, who's working at inxile? Did Fargo snort coke for the entire 2 millions and left them with nothing?
     
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    Isn't BT4 still a long way off? This is just a tech demo/teaser, which looks really good to me by the way.

    Also, why are you comparing Witcher 3 to BT4? The amount of resources is not close to being comparable.
     
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    The trailer music man. I feel like I am visiting a funeral. :M

    Zero gameplay. Looks like a relatively low budget game... Yep. That is about it.
     
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  22. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    The artists' workflow is the same whether you're making Witcher 3 or BT4. Witcher 3 simply has more stuff - a shitload of cutscenes with mocap, much more areas, gameplay, everything, which costs more. With BT4 you're making a small cozy game, but that doesn't mean you have to make or use shit assets.

    And I can analyze only what they give me. Had they given me gameplay, I'd talk about that. If they show me graphics (saying "I hope this gets your imaginations running wild"), and their assets all look like shit, level design is shit, technology they're using is shit (costs nothing to switch to MSAA), all I can say is they're disappointingly incompetent. If they're incompetent at this and don't see that what they've made is shit, they're most likely incompetent at everything else.
     
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  23. Mustawd Arcane

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    Can you make a comparison in graphics between this and a AA game you think does a better job?

    Not disagreeing that it looks worse than W3, which it does, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a AA game that BT4 really looks worse than.
     
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  24. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    Sure. Kingdom Come.
     
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  25. Mustawd Arcane

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    Fair enough. Though the previous BT4 video looked much better than what was shown in Infinitron's post today. Which I find a bit strange.


    Still, the graphical fidelity of it is more than serviceable to me, which is why I said it looks pretty good.
     
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