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The Codex Top 10, take 2

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Lumpy, Oct 14, 2007.

  1. Lumpy Arcane

    Lumpy
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    Post 2 favourites, 3 good ones and up to 5 honourable mentions. 3 points to each of the favourites, 2 to the good ones, and 1 to the mentions.

    Any game which is usually considered an RPG, or which you personally consider an RPG, works. The criterion is overall enjoyability, not necessarily RPG qualities.

    The results based on pages 1-5:

    Code:
     1   Planescape: Torment                             136
     2   Fallout                                         122
     3   Arcanum                                          90
     4   Fallout 2                                        85
     5   BG 2                                             74
     6   Vampire the Masquarade: Bloodlines               60
     7   Morrowind                                        41
     8   Gothic 2                                         39
     9   Knights of the Old Republic 2                    30
    10   Ultima 7                                         29
    11   Deus Ex                                          22
    12   Knights of the Old Republic                      20
    13   Daggerfall/Gothic 1/Neverwinter Nights 2         19
    14   Baldur's Gate/Gothic 3/Temple of Elemental Evil  17
    15   Wizardry 8                                       16
    16   System Shock 2                                   14
    The whole list of RPGs posted:

    Code:
     1	Planescape: Torment	136
     2	Fallout	122
     3	Arcanum	90
     4	Fallout 2	85
     5	BG 2	74
     6	Vampire the Masquarade: Bloodlines	60
     7	Morrowind	41
     8	Gothic 2	39
     9	Knights of the Old Republic 2	30
    10	Ultima 7	29
    11	Deus Ex	22
    12	Knights of the Old Republic	20
    13	Daggerfall	19
    14	Gothic 1	19
    15	Neverwinter Nights 2	19
    16	Baldur's Gate 1	17
    17	Gothic 3	17
    18	Temple of Elemental Evil	17
    19	Wizardry 8	16
    20	System Shock 2	14
    21	Realms of Arkania 2	13
    22	Icewind Dale	12
    23	Darklands	11
    24	Neverwinter Nights	11
    25	NWN 2: Mask of the Betrayer	11
    26	Jade Empire	9
    27	Ultima Underworld	9
    28	Ultima 5	8
    29	Wizardry 7	8
    30	Jagged Alliance 2	7
    31	Prelude to Darkness	6
    32	Anachronox	5
    33	Betrayal at Krondor	5
    34	Final Fantasy 6	5
    35	Final Fantasy 7	5
    36	Might&Magic 6	5
    37	Might&Magic 7	5
    38	Oblivion	5
    39	Ultima 4	5
    40	Wasteland	5
    41	Icewind Dale 2	4
    42	Starflight	4
    43	Ultima Underworld 2	4
    44	Arx Fatalis	3
    45	Bard's Tale	3
    46	Diablo 2	3
    47	Starflight 2	3
    48	The Superhelo League of Hoboken	3
    49	Dungeon Master	3
    50	Geneforce 2	3
    51	Buck Rogers: Matrix Cubed	2
    52	Dark Sun	2
    53	Divine Divinity	2
    54	Final Fantasy 8	2
    55	King of Dragon Pass	2
    56	Might&Magic 4	2
    57	Might&Magic 5	2
    58	S.T.A.L.K.E.R	2
    59	Ultima 6	2
    60	ADOM	2
    61	Geneforce 4	2
    62	Alternate Reality: Dungeon	1
    63	Ambermoon	1
    64	Avernum	1
    65	Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday	1
    66	Chrono Trigger	1
    67	Curse of the Azure Bonds	1
    68	Dark Queen of Krynn	1
    69	Darkstone	1
    70	Dungeon Cleaners	1
    71	Ecstatica	1
    72	Escape from Hell	1
    73	Final Fantasy 4	1
    74	Final Fantasy 5	1
    75	Hordes of the Underdark	1
    76	Legacy of the Ancients	1
    77	Mount & Blade	1
    78	Phantasy Star 4	1
    79	Pool of Radiance	1
    80	Quest for Glory: Shadows of Darkness	1
    81	Questron 2	1
    82	Silent Storm	1
    83	Silver	1
    84	Space Rangers 2	1
    85	The Sims	1
    86	Thief: Deadly Shadows	1
    87	Tortured Hearts 2	1
    88	Ultima 8	1
    89	Way of the Samurai	1
    90	Wild Arms	1
    91	Wizardry 6	1
    92	Shadowrun Genesis	1
    93	Death Knights of Krynn	1
    94	Geneforce	1
    95	Dark Age of Camelot	1
    96	Uncharted Waters	1
    97	Vampire the Masquarade: Redemption	1
    98	Lands of Lore	1
    
     
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  2. Percolator Fish Novice

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    sounds like fun

    -- Favourites
    Jade Empire
    Arcanum
    -- Good ones
    Knights of The Old Republic 2
    Baldur's Gate 2
    TES: Oblivion
    -- Honourable Mentions
    TES: Morrowind
    Fallout
    Fallout 2
     
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  3. Rean Codex Grammar Police Patron

    Rean
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    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Morrowind - GOTY edition, with user-created content (texture mods, fixes, small tweaks)
    Neverwinter Nights - plus expansions, patches, premium modules and user-created modules
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    KOTOR
    KOTOR 2
    Neverwinter Nights 2 + Mask of the Betrayer
    ---
    The Witcher
    Jade Empire
    Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
    Gothic 3
    Fallout

    Edit: Removed Fallout 2 (suddenly realised that, beneath all the hype, it just isn't that fun). Added MotB, which imo is one of the best RPGs I've ever played, and moved Bloodlines down the list to make room. Added The Witcher and removed Torment.
     
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  4. Mefi Erudite

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    Best:
    1. ToEE
    2. Fallout

    Good:
    3. Darklands
    4. Arcanum
    5. PS:T

    Enjoyable:
    6: Vampire TM
    7. Gothic (2 if I can't have them all)
    8. Daggerfall
     
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  5. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Wizardry 8
    Realms of Arkania 2
    --
    Wizardry 7
    Ultima 7 - The Serpent Isle
    Arcanum
    --
    Morrowind
    Gothic 1
    PS:T
    Wizardy 6

    Oh dear, Fallout didn't make it. Screw you.

    Edit: Damnit, how could I forget you, Ultima 7! Revised. Ultima 7 > PS:T. :evil:
    Edit: More revision.
     
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  6. Mefi Erudite

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    The hive mind now hates you. Play again some time. :lol:
     
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  7. Morbus Scholar

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    This topic is unworthy of any respect... Seriously, look at the title dudes!

    :EDIT:
    The problem is not the title, it's the replies when in conjunction with it. Oblibion?!?=!?!?"!?m~1+p 5ç,e wrºpdonwbof neqvl
     
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  8. Marsal Arcane

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    My list:

    Arcanum
    Fallout

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    VtM: Bloodlines
    PS: Torment
    Fallout 2

    ------------

    TOEE
    KOTOR
    KOTOR 2
    Baldur's Gate 2
    S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (if Oblivion goes, so does this)
     
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  9. pug987 Scholar

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    Favorite:
    Betrayal at Krondor
    PS:T

    Good:
    Fallout 1
    Baldur's Gate 2
    Might and Magic 7

    Honourable Mention:
    Might and Magic Worlds of Xeen (4 and 5)
    Vampire The Masquarade: Bloodlines
    Daggerfall
    Gothic 1
    Gothic 2

    Although I'm sure I'm forgeting some of the games I've played.
     
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  10. Zomg Arbiter

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    I wanna juke the inevitable stats.

    Darklands
    Darklands

    Darklands
    Darklands
    Darklands

    Darklands
    Darklands
    Darklands
    Darklands
    Darklands
    Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
     
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  11. Jaime Lannister Arbiter

    Jaime Lannister
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    Favorites:
    Planescape: Torment
    Gothic 2

    Good ones:
    Gothic 1
    Fallout

    Honorable Mentions:
    KOTOR
    KOTOR 2
    Baldur's Gate 2
    Fallout 2
    Morrowind
     
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  12. Callaxes Arbiter

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    I'm having a hard time piecing these togheter, but:


    1. Planescape: Torment
    2. Darklands

    3. Fallout 1&2
    4. Jagged Alliance 2 (either this or the first X-COM game)
    5. Arcanum

    6. Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines
    7. Realms of Ark... no wait! Make that Dark Sun 1
    8. Realms of Arkania 2 (overall this isn't a good game, but I realy respect it for its inovations)
    9. Ultima 7
    10. Morrowind, although I'm tended to mention Gothic 3 or Daggerfall


    Fuck me! That was hard man, that was realy hard.


    As much as I like King of Dragon Pass I can't add it to the list, because I don't consider it a CRPG, but it's definately one of my top games!
     
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  13. John Yossarian Cipher

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    Arcanum
    PS:T

    F1
    F2

    ToEE
    Morrowind
    KOTOR
    Deus Ex (fuck you, someone said Oblivion)
    Daggerfall
     
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  14. Lumpy Arcane

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    Okay.
     
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  15. Andyman Messiah Mr. Ed-ucated

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    I probably messed up and missed a game or two but from the top of my brain:

    Favorites:
    Planescape: Torment
    Arcanum

    Good ones:
    Fallout 1 & 2
    Anachronox
    Realms of Arkania 2 - Star Trail

    Honorable Mentions:
    KOTOR 2
    Bard's Tale (original)
    Darklands
    Morrowind (atmosphereus awesomeus manages to beat designus faultus)
    Jade Empire (story is very good, although disappointingly short)

    Edit: Fuck, can I also cram both Fallout 1 & 2 in on one place like Callaxes did? Yeah, I think I will. I seriously need Anachronox in on the list somewhere. The best fucking console RPG ever!

    Edit2: BG2 had to move its sorry ass to make room for the original Bard's Tale game. The first awesome game I ever awesomely played.
     
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  16. AZ Liturgist

    AZ
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    Let's see:

    Baldur's Gate 2
    Planescape: Torment
    --
    Fallout
    Gothic
    Icewind Dale 1
    --
    Fallout 2
    System Shock 2
    VtM: Bloodlines
    Temple of Elemental Evil
    Divine Divinity
     
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  17. Callaxes Arbiter

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    I'm sorry, but you're not the apropriate level for that. Please come back when you have more experience and a bigger sword.
     
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  18. fastpunk Arbiter

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    Lets see:

    Planescape: Torment

    Knights of the Old Republic II
    ---
    Fallout
    Fallout 2
    Knights of the Old Republic
    ---
    Deus Ex (it's more RPG than many games that have been labeled RPGs... plus, it's cyberpunk at its absolute best)
    Thief: Deadly Shadows
    Neverwinter Nights 2 (not done yet but I'd rate it as my favorite Faerunian adventure so far)
    Baldurs Gate 2
    Silver (not the best the genre has to offer but it was my absolute first RPG way back when all I was still playing NFS and Quake)

    I still want to play Arcanum, ToEE, Bloodlines, MotB and The Witcher... so this top 10 could change dramatically. I got a lot of gaming to do! :D
     
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  19. Cassidy Arcane

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    Counting the FPS/RPG hybrids that are better than Oblivion.
    --------------------------
    Favorites

    Fallout
    Planescape: Torment
    --------------------------
    Good

    Fallout 2
    System Shock 2
    Deus Ex 1
    --------------------------
    Honorable Mentions

    Prelude to Darkness [​IMG]
    Thief: The Dark Project (Oblivion is less of a RPG than it, so it counts)
    Anachronox
    Darkstone
    Hordes of the Underdark
     
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  20. Lumpy Arcane

    Lumpy
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    No. You're just being silly.
     
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  21. Monolith Cipher Patron

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    Fallout
    PS:Torment
    -
    Fallout 2
    Bloodlines
    Arcanum
    -
    Prelude to Darkness
    Deus Ex
    Gothic 2
    Jagged Alliance 2
    System Shock 2

    Don't think that this is set in stone, at least for me it's not. This represents loosely how much I'm craving to replay one of those gems. If I had a whole month full of free time and without obligations, a social life and the need to sleep, I'd start from the top working myself downwards. More or less...
     
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  22. Callaxes Arbiter

    Callaxes
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    Stop wasting valuable space on jokes. This is serious you dipshit! RPGs are no laughthing matter.

    There's a whole lot of good RPGs that can go in that wasted slot.
     
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  23. fastpunk Arbiter

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    I guess it does count, from a certain point of view... I don't know, it's a though call. I included Deadly Shadows myself so what the hell? Why not?
     
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  24. Fyz Scholar

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    Am I the only jRPG-freak around? :C
    Must be because I've missed the Ultima series.

    Favourites:
    Planescape: Torment
    Final Fantasy 6
    ------
    Good ones:
    Icewind Dale 2
    Baldur's Gate 2
    Fallout 2
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    Honourable mentions:
    Final Fantasy 4
    Final Fantasy 7
    Arcanum
    Might and Magic 6
    Fallout 1
     
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  25. Keldorn Scholar

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    1) FO1

    2) FO 2



    3) BG 2

    4) PS:T



    5) Arcanum

    6) TOEE

    7) NWN 1

    8) BG 1

    9) Tortured Hearts 2 Mod (For NWN 1)

    10) Ultima 5 Lazarus Mod (For DS 1)
     
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