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The Deus Ex: Human Revolution Thread: Director's Cut™

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Glyphwright, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. Gragt Arcane Patron

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    Nice, and it goes without saying that they'll offer the update to the Enhanced Edition for free if you already own the game.
     
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    Obviously, we are talking about CD Projekt here, after all.
    Oh wait, shit...

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    DX:HR system was certainly not devoid of problems, but they mostly existed on balancing level. Diversity of builds was only hampered by abundance of praxis points and fact that a lot of interesting stuff required only minor investments.

    Nevertheless:
    -point investment has more to offer than just binary choices - for instance it allows for varying focus.
    -tree like structure with sub-functionalities is more interesting
    -splitting different mechanical aspects of single activity between augs can be more interesting - for example stabilization and recoil control
    -passive or contextual use work better for many abilities and unclutter the interface - you got much less mileage out of your augs in DX1, because you had turn each and every one on and off manually.
    -full environmental immunities worked better than partial resistances, especially given that it allowed you to navigate hazardous areas without protagonist grunting all the time and prevented unprotected passage via careful health management.
    -all in all most skills were generally not worthwhile in DX1, while most augs have counterparts in DX:HR (aggressive defense, spy-drone and telescopic view will be missed, however).


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    I would like my iWin buttons with a twist. Like having to avoid uLose counterbutton kicking in before iWin does.

    Artificial challenges are artificial, news at eleven.
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  4. TwinkieGorilla does a good job. Patron

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    The game has been out for this fucking long and this is all they're offering? No new DLC, no mention of a new game? Just...no fucking boss fights? Jesus wept.
     
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  5. sea inXile Entertainment Developer

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    No it doesn't.
     
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    You must now roll 2d6 of shame.
     
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    Would be nice to have a release date for the enhanced edition on the pc.
     
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    They should just release a modding kit.
     
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  9. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    I doubt they'll offer it for free considering they still sell the Tong missions and Missing Link DLC separately for cash. Maybe they'll offer it for free to people who have Missing Link but even that is wishful thinking. If all it does it retool the boss fights so they aren't retarded shooters then I couldn't care less. Something like that should have come out a long time ago. Easy way to skip the boss fights, just get typhoon and two shot them.
     
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    Steam has, on several occasions, offered a discount based on owning something else. Would make sense for them to offer X% off for owning the original game, Y% off for owning missing link, Z% off for owning DLC. In the end if you own everything already you get this version for like $5.
     
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  11. karfhud Savant

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    I actually took up Deus Ex: Human Revolution around the time the OP did and ended up positively surprised. It has a proper atmosphere, plus the story they deliver was outstanding and didn't fall off toward the end. I'm not a big fan of shooters, nor stealth games, so crouching in the corridors and avoiding cameras was a huge pain in the butt. However, I somehow wanted to go on, wondering what the new story development will be.

    I anticipated the boss fights to be absolutely terrible and actually - they weren't all that bad.
     
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    A shitty cinematic about how the world is totally changed by your actions that in no way can contradict Deus Ex, thus rendering it completely useless means it DOESN'T fall off toward the end?
     
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    Well, if you insist that the game was shit because the 2 minutes ending sequence was done poorly, ok.

    Where I do think that you could say it "fell off" was that the story began to dissolve somewhat towards the end.
    The last two missions felt a bit as if they had to forcefully finish the game now and quickly ressolve the remaining parts of the story.
    The game might have profited from another half year of polishing, whith some rework to the pacing of the story - probably cutting some of the middle parts, but adding a bit towards the end.
    Probably giving a more coherent focus to the story (and the ending, too) - as you can't contradict DX much, the main motives are set, so you could either go for a plot that shows how the world in DX came to be or for a more personal story that won't affect the rest of the world.
    For much of the game, DX:HR seemed to try and do this.
    However, probably they felt that because the old games gave you the last-minute possibility to select a world-changing ending of the players choice, they had to do it in DX:HR as well.

    Regarding the ending sequence, that's something I think could have been done better in the original as well.
    Let's face it, the way you did it was only slightly more complicated compared to DX:HR's anticlimatic "push one of four buttons to select your ending slides".
     
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    No, you either misunderstood me, or I wasn't clear about what I mean. The ending cinematics indeed weren't up to scratch, but I really loved the last mission and the last location. Its design was phenomenal and - don't wanna spoil too much, just in case - the story development hit the right beats for me.
     
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    Watching old cynics come to grips with the fact Deus Ex: HR is a good game is always funny.
     
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    It's not bad. But coming to it after playing the original to blissful exhaustion, made the experience very frustrating. It doesn't even come close. In any way. Even graphics-wise. Deus Ex with HD textures pack looks much nicer thanks to the superior artstyle.
     
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    That is true, I agree. It's just that for me the ending videos were more terrible than the previous mission was good. So when you said 'at the end' I assumed you meant the ending videos.
     
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    First video up from the new game, looks quite fail.
     
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    Are you a war bro from the Eidos forums?
     
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    Not really, no. But thanks for asking.
     
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    I miss those guys (mostly). Most of the good ones got banned for calling EM on their shit.
     
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    Actually this part is bullshit. Both art direction and use of engine's visual capability were parts that were sorely lacking in the otherwise superior original.
     
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    It's debatable, but sure, why not. HD pack makes for a huge difference though.
    The point is HR's gold-look is fugly and it's levels are extremely repetitive and corridory. You may like it if you're into pretentious shit like that, but I was bored with it very fast. DE1 was more realistic, more immersive.

    But the thing that threw me off the most from the very beginning is how physics and environment interactivity are way, way more limited then in the original. Decline.
     
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