Elder Scrolls The Elder Scrolls VI - officially announced but you'll have to wait

This is stupid. What I'm saying doesn't mean they don't do what they did with ESO and Skyrim. I'm not posing a scruples question, it's not a either or thing. They can still sell those and sell other shit with those brands slapped on them.

I doubt they think another Elder Scrolls would make people stop playing their Online game. If that were true they probably wouldn't be rereleasing Skyrim every other day, and they wouldn't have done that Blades game or whatever it's called. The point is they're getting these other studios to make games for them and if they had them working within the brands that more people know more people would buy them, which would give them more money. I'm thinking of this from a money point of view. If Avalanche had made a third person Fallout game where you're driving around the wasteland fixing up vechicles and power armor and doing shit you could do in their previous games...that would have had way more attention directed at it, and it would have sold more than a sequel to Rage. If they had another Fallout game out their it likely would've also alleviated the clusterfuck they found themselves in with Fallout 76. It wouldn't have drawn away the hardcore Bethesda fanboys that stuck with '76 either, because they're hardcore fanboys and 76 is the one Bethesda made; they'd also be two very different feeling games.

 

its interesting that they keep getting new players into eso, considering it doesnt even got a free trial. How many mmos are there like that?

 

The more desperate people get for Elder Scrolls, the more likely it is they'll subscribe to ESO. It's a smart strategy.

 

Remember, Rockstar shut down expansions for GTA 5 because they were worried about disrupting online play, which is making them ridiculous amounts of money apparently.

 

All the games are aping Ubisoft game design way more than Bethesda. Climbing towers to unlock your map and discover a million repetitive tasks that are all drawn from a pool of 3-5 different types of tasks is peak Ubisoft. For all of Bethesda's faults even Skyrim never quite hit that same level of droning formulaic repetitiveness as Ubisoft and Ubisoft design games do. Skyrim is the most recent Bethesda game I've played so I dunno if their later releases are like that.

The difference here is that Obsidian was competing directly with Bioware at the height of their popularity while they were still actively churning out the kind of products that their fans wanted to buy and play. Skyrim was released 9 years ago and it's going to be at least another 4-5 years before the next installment of TES comes out. It's just odd that no one has attempted at a real contender for the throne. It's not like the bar of entry is even that high to begin with.

That's because ESO is buy-to-play. It has a subscription model, too, but it's not exactly mandatory, and even if you do pay for it it'll give you more value than other MMO subs do. It has its appeal to customers.

 

I must be in the minority. I was a huge ES nerd back in the Daggerfall/Morrowind era, but I don't think I once checked out previews/reviews/LPs of ESO. Isn't the whole concept of ES about fantasy and escapism? Kinda deflates that idea when you're zipping around trees, larping as a wood elf and in your ear you hear some kid's mom in Ohio screaming at him to finish his homework before he plays games.

MMO and fantasy games don't seem to be the right combination. I think the WOW factor is at work. It's not about fantasy any more as much as it is hyper-competition and numbers crunching. Escapist video games are supposed to be about getting away from the real world of assholes and bitches. MMOS drop you head-first into assholebitch-land.

 

often there is trial involved even with those, good ones that is

 

I tried ESO in some free trial or something and found it extremely MMO, if you know what I mean. It didn't appeal to the part of me that likes derping around in Betehsda's open worlds at all. I know it's been successful overall, but I'm also sure it doesn't scratch the specific itch Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim do. As for why barely anyone else is trying, well... who knows. It wouldn't surprise me if the Ubisoft formula is just much cheaper to churn out and no one else wants to fuck with it.